Mr. Scot

I don't think it matters even if they do.

Not a huge fan myself but I think it's always a good idea to get different perspectives and Weis was a very good offensive mind. Charlie Weis raves about Mac Jones as potential Patriots QB "What are the two most important components of a star quarterback? They have the 'it' factor. And they're accurate. That's who he was," Weis said. Weis, who was a central figure in Tom Brady's development in the early years of the QB's career, initially shared his viewpoint during an interview on his Sirius XM NFL Radio program with co-host Bill Lekas. He was asked to expound on it in a follow-up conversation with ESPN.com. One of the knocks on Jones is he was surrounded by an all-star level cast at Alabama, but Weis sees that as more of a positive factor. "You talk about being around good players. Yeah, he was around good players. But playing on a team with a bunch of stars, who is the leader of the offense?" Weis said. "He also had to make all those throws. I think the kid is an excellent quarterback. He has less holes than just about anybody." The Patriots pick No. 15 in the 2021 NFL draft, and ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. has them picking Jones in his latest mock draft. Fellow ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay had Jones going earlier than that in his second mock. Jones' athleticism isn't at the same level as other top prospects. But Weis, who highlighted how Jones has been coached by Nick Saban, one of Bill Belichick's closest friends, believes his positive attributes outweigh potential concern. "If you're looking for a guy that's going to be running for 30 yards on a regular basis, that's not your guy. But he can move in the pocket, and from the pocket, and run the ball when he absolutely needs to. "When you talk about Trevor Lawrence, what makes him so special is that he can do everything Mac Jones can and he's athletic. [Justin] Fields, really good player. Zach Wilson, really good player. The kid from North Dakota State [Trey Lance], really good player. "But this guy, [Jones], he's the one making all the plays. All he does is win and throw completions." Weis made a comparison to New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees when he was coming out of Purdue in 2001. "He went in the second round because everyone said, 'He doesn't take any snaps under center and his arm is not strong enough.' All he did was play great at Purdue, and complete almost every pass," Weis said. "How has that worked out?"

The worst player on any given NFL team is still one of the best athletes in the world. ... That doesn't change the fact that they're the worst player.

Cap might make that rough. The cap hit for trading Wentz is brutal.

Not wanting to go to Miami sounds like kind of a stretch.

Taking him on the team is easy. It's the "any cost" part that would worry me. Geoff Schwartz actually got into it with some Panther fans over the idea that Watson alone is enough.

Voth pretty much shot down the idea of us trading McCaffrey.

Not unless he got them before we drafted him because he's been like this from the beginning. Even in college there was a knock on him that he looked lost sometimes.

Unpopular opinions are fine but I'm afraid this one doesn't make any sense. If you're hoping somebody above us in the draft order makes a trade for Watson, why would you drive up the price? That would actually make it less likely that they make that trade.

Looks like Schwartz took a bit of a swipe at Panther fans today. (granted, he may be right)

The Broncos won with a barely mobile quarterback just five years ago. With that said, we're talking about a formula that's netted teams one Super Bowl under the flukiest of circumstances. Nobody's built a consistent contender that way. That's not an example I want to see us follow.

I don't think the moves we've made so far are anything sensational. They're good, and they're competent, and that's fine. Where I think things get skewed is that we're so used to incompetent management that competent management seems like genius.

Injuries didn't affect his brain. Even factoring in practice time out, he looked absolutely lost way more times than he should have last season. That's why he got benched for an undrafted guy. Add in that while I actually disagree with the notion that he looked better pre-injury, even accepting that premise, you can't get the "pre-injury" guy back. He is what he is now.

Theoretically sure. In practice, it didn't work out so well for us. The problem with that rationale was that Rivera all too often trusted the coverage to subpar players. The results definitely didn't back him up, especially against quarterbacks that were quick decision makers (Brees generally ate us alive). So much of the NFL employs a quick passing attack these days that going that route can be a risk.

If Ron Rivera were still the coach I might agree. Rivera definitely valued pass rush over coverage. Under Matt Rhule and Phil Snow though, I'm not so sure.

Five things you can say about Watson... Getting him would be great. Getting him would also be extremely difficult. Other teams are in position to make better offers than we can. Thus, the compensation needed to get him would be painful. And in the end, it is genuinely possible that the Texans never agree to trade him. Oy I have no idea how this turns out. I'd certainly be happy to have him but I don't know how likely that is and the thought of what we have to give up in the process is concerning.

I'd take Aaron Wilson over Mike Florio any day of the week, even if he was saying something I didn't want to hear. Wilson established himself as one of the best reporters in the NFL back when he was the Ravens insider.

Going into an offseason not having to worry about our fate being in the hands of people in whom I have no faith is a very different feeling. Don't know how good Rhule is. Don't know how good Fitterer is. But I know very well how bad Ron and Marty were. Have said many times that I will take an unknown over a known bad ten times out of ten.

We haven't had anybody as good as Jeremy Chinn in our secondary in a long time, and he's just getting started. Giving him up would be super painful.

Aaron Wilson's "quarterback limbo" article lists three or four teams that Watson is interested in. It mentions us, but doesn't really say anything about Watson preferring us.

Asked this in another thread... You've got a team that's trading away a young franchise quarterback while also looking to replace a legend in JJ Watt. Looking at it from their side, do you really believe they're going to say "Sure, Yetur Gross-Matos is fair compensation".

Second tweet cites Matt Miller though I can't find a direct quote on his Twitter. May have been from somewhere else. The possibility of all four of the top quarterbacks being gone by pick eight seems real.

That's kind of a tough sell for me. Said elsewhere: Put yourself in their shoes. You're trading away a young franchise quarterback and also looking to replace JJ Watt. The team you're negotiating with has Brian Burns but offers you Yetur Gross-Matos instead. What's your reaction?

Keeping Marty for another year set us back. It was dumb, and Tepper at least seems to get that.