Mr. Scot

He's not saying we're going to win, or even that we're going to be good. He's saying that it's silly to overreact this soon. And he's right.

He's right.

No, I don't. And no, I won't...at least not this season. All I'm hoping for this year is improvement, especially towards the final few games of the year. Next season is when we can start talking about having higher expectations.

For the folks saying 0-2 is a big deal, congratulations. David Newton agrees with you. Darin Gantt? Not so much

I've been told me and Brad Pitt bear at least a passing resemblance 🫥

We don't? 🫥

Get the feeling Mike isn't exactly a big Sean Payton fan

Except they shouldn't... All you're really doing right now is trying to find an argument to justify being emotionally upset about losing. It's silly.

This?

More from Chandler Jones... I'm assuming "MD" is Mark Davis.

We're just two games into LaFleur without Aaron Rodgers too.

I don't see London, or France, or... nevermind I just see what's in my own personal sphere.

I've seen a lot of "well if it were we a rebuild they'd be doing this" type of logic (all of it extremely flawed) and people freaking out and panicking because of that. It was always going to be a foundation building year.

You were skeptical of 2021, but you're absolutely certain you know who and what we are based on two games into this year? Yeah, sure... I went into this season with no definitive expectations because I knew the kind of season we were looking at. A rebuild. This season is about building a foundation, getting our franchise QB adjusted to the pro level and hopefully learning a thing or two along the way. Any winning we do is just gravy. To anyone who went in expecting more than that, or especially expecting playoffs or some kind of strong push, I've called that unrealistic...and still do.

The Packers were almost a playoff team last year, and had been for several seasons before that. We're already in a different league from the Packers. As to tomorrow night, neither a wind nor will us is going to say anything definitive about what kind of team we are, regardless of people's confirmation bias.

Yeah, that's all an assumption, and one that I highly doubt is correct. They went after Young (per their own statements) because they believe and if you don't have the right quarterback, it doesn't matter how great a team you have around him. Reich's experience in Indianapolis pretty much reinforces that idea.

You referring to us or the Packers?

Look at the Giants this season. And no, I absolutely expect improvement. I just know that it's not likely going to happen in two games. Hell, even on a non-rebuilding team, you don't get a genuine sense of how good or bad you are until around mid-season. That's why early conclusions all too often wind up looking dumb. We don't even have to go that far back to see an example. Just think back a couple of years to when we started off looking like a playoff team with Sam Darnold at quarterback and tell me how that worked out.

Oy Yeah, not gonna hold my breath waiting for that to happen

Don't know, but he's been posting some really crazy stuff. Meanwhile, Stephen A Smith and Terrell Owens are having a massive Twitter fight and Antonio Brown is posting about CTE in a way that makes it almost sound like he's bragging about having it. Oy

Yes I know, it happened how you think it did regardless of what anybody who was actually there says. I've generally assumed you know how dumb that actually sounds, but I'm not so sure anymore.

Sorry, but all of this is basically panic talk. It's year one with a new staff, new schemes, a new quarterback, etc. The idea that this is some sort of time for urgency is just unrealistic and emotion driven. Demanding that guy's succeed and turn everything around in one year was the MO of a senile Al Davis. That's not someone whosr methods I'd like to copy.

Sorry dude, but the molded statement is just clueless. There's not a single NFL team out there with all pros of every position. Hell there's not even any out there without at least one week unit. That's the reality of salary cap football with a talent pool spread across 32 teams. The reality is we went for a franchise quarterback at a time when we believed one was available. Had we not, people would be screaming about that more so than anything else. We've had the discussion waitinh till next year to get our franchise QB a million times on this board. It's just not a solid strategy. When one is available, and you have the ability to get them by whatever means, you do it...and we did. Any suggestion that we should have waited even longer than we already have is, shall we say, not going to be a popular argument. (nor should it be)