Mr. Scot

Speaking of things that could get interesting... Callihan quotes Albert Breer... "Another quarterback to watch in free agency for New Orleans would be Baker Mayfield. The Saints staff was high on Mayfield ahead of the 2018 draft, and those old draft evals can definitely have an impact down the road with guys as they get older and hit free agency, especially when there’s a need that can be tied to it."

Joe Person's latest from The Athletic... Excerpts... With each hire Frank Reich makes, the Panthers move closer to the experience-laden staff that David Tepper envisioned — and further from the charred remnants of the Matt Rhule era. When Tepper addressed the media after introducing Reich as the sixth head coach in team history last month, some of the first words out of Tepper’s mouth concerned the assistant coaches who might come with Reich to Charlotte. ... “You want to have a guy that’s committed to get the best coaches in the building,” Tepper said. “When I say the best people in the building — top-10 coaches. We’re not gonna have the best person at every position coach, but top-10 people. It should be an absolute standard.” Based on who’s been moving into the second-floor offices at Bank of America Stadium this week, Tepper might have undershot it. ... A few things have become evident in the three weeks since Reich returned to the Carolinas: The 61-year-old coach has a ton of NFL coaches in his contacts list and isn’t shy about calling them, and Tepper is willing to pay to make sure he doesn’t make the same mistake twice. Tepper, the NFL’s second-richest owner, has never had a problem stroking checks. Not long after buying the Panthers from Jerry Richardson, Tepper noted that while the NFL has a salary cap for players, there were no such restrictions on shelling out for coaches and facilities. ... After giving Rhule a seven-year, $62 million contract — unprecedented for a college coach with one year of NFL experience — Tepper allowed Rhule to bring in a staff filled with a lot of guys who were with him at Temple and Baylor. Rhule’s one splashy hire was 31-year-old offensive coordinator Joe Brady, who won a national championship as LSU’s passing game coordinator but had never been a full-time play caller. Rhule’s entire staff in 2020 had 72 years of NFL coaching experience, according to Darin Gantt of Panthers.com. Reich, Caldwell, Capers and offensive line coach James Campen have 90 years among just the four of them. ... One veteran AFC assistant raved about Caldwell, the 68-year-old who won Super Bowls as an assistant with the Colts and Ravens. The same coach pointed out that the Panthers still need a quarterback. That is true. But whoever the Panthers decide to go with at quarterback will have the benefit of working with three coaches with a long track record at the position — Reich, Caldwell and McCown. That’s in addition to the offensive coordinator, who could be named as early as Friday. ... Rams assistant head coach Thomas Brown was in Charlotte on Thursday for a second interview for the OC spot, while Jaguars pass game coordinator Jim Bob Cooter also has met with Reich about the position. Eagles passing game coordinator Brian Johnson also has been linked to the Panthers. And there likely are other candidates who haven’t been identified. “Knowing Frank,” Capers told The Athletic, “he’s gonna think things through thoroughly and make the decision he feels is gonna be best for the team.”

Yeah, and from what I've read the issue isn't so much the total contract amount as it is he wants the whole thing guaranteed like Watson got. A lot of owners really hate the Browns right now...

I had to (probably should have put it in the OP)

To the heart of darkness?

The "Carr Watch" is because plenty of people are interested. That includes those who prefer he sign somewhere else. I've already said I'm okay with whatever the braintrust ultimately decides in regard to him.

How much are they offering though? And is he just a fallback in case they don't get Aaron Rodgers?

You mean like when Gruden changed Tampa's starting quarterbacks on an annual basis? Seriously dude, yikes

For fans of signing him... Also, if the thread title has you humming "Car Wash" to yourself, you're probably as old as I am

You have a habit of really relishing the idea of bad things happening so people will be mad. It's like that's more important to you than seeing the team succeed

In other words, you do the opposite of the Raiders If that's whose wisdom you're trusting, yikes

Especially not while also suggesting that the Raiders have made smart decisions

Gruden and McDaniels good head coaches? Yeah, sure All of this again fails to factor in that while the Ravens have been a smartly run team, The Raiders have been a train wreck from ownership on down the line. As mentioned in the other thread, learn from what smart teams do; don't repeat the mistakes of dumb ones.

There are legitimate concerns with Lamar Jackson, but I don't see you accepting any of them. There are legitimate mitigating factors with Derek Carr, but again you don't acknowledge them. There are pros and cons to both of them, but until you actually acknowledge that fact it's kind of pointless debating with you.

Everybody's fault but his... Funny how the opposite reasoning gets applied to Derek Carr

Market for Patullo seemingly hasn't been what analysts expected. No confirmation that he interviewed or was requested here, of course we didn't have that for Brown either until we heard he was getting a second interview, so...

Ah, but he doesn't have any weapons except his tight end, remember? Funny that's what Falcon fans said about Vick too. Then the team replaced him with Matt Schaub and all of a sudden their receivers learned how to catch. (always thought it was really inconsiderate of them to only do that after Vick left)

Well, that could get interesting

I remember some years back we were having a discussion that we needed to do whatever we could / trade whatever was necessary / pay whatever he asked to a certain quarterback from another team. He was sold as a dynamic athlete who was worth the injury risk, guaranteed us a Super Bowl and any perceived weaknesses in his passing game were the fault of pretty much any and everybody else but him. In the end, Michael Vick never took us (or anybody else) to the Super Bowl, but he won a lot of awards and had some really cool highlights

Here's something I didn't know... I remember the interview, but wasn't aware of them having a prior connection. For the record, Bieniemy should probably consider that being the OC for Andy Reid and being the OC for Ron Rivera are two very different jobs

Probably a dumb team...

Again, If the Ravens (who are a smart team) don't think he's worth the money and are considering letting him go, that's a big red flag. So no, I'm not doing it. ... Now we wait for a certain poster to come in and point out that he won the MVP four years ago which apparently makes him the greatest player of all time