Mr. Scot

Trust me, if I could rewrite Panthers history I'd be going back way further than that But yeah, if I recall correctly at the time we hired Matt Rhule I was pushing for Dan Campbell.

Not to knock Rivera but I've never taken the Coach of the Year award all that seriously. For one, those two years that Rivera won it he was alternating with Bruce Arians. Also true that if you take a look back at the history of the award, the guys who want it had great seasons but very few of them finished them out with Lombardi trophies.

Prior interview experience probably crosses Ed Dodds off the list too.

On the other front, while he certainly had his limitations, Bridgewater did at least warn us about Matt Rhule. Wish we would have listened.

We did that with Phil Snow though and got run over.

This I would agree with. Offenses now are becoming increasively complex, and league rules are no longer allowing defenses to just beat people up.

Again, can't agree. It's all about combinations. Rivera / Gettleman worked. And I'd love to have seen what would have happened had they been able to continue working off that 2017 draft. Rivera / Hurney didn't work. Gettleman / Shurmur didn't work. Whatever working chemistry those two had just didn't transfer to anybody else. Maybe it was the combination of nice and nasty that had a happy medium.

Not as a head coach. Don't know if he still lives in Charlotte but I'd probably take him as a linebacker coach.

Can't agree. Dave made bad moves just like Marty made good moves, but It's the overall result that matters. And what can't be argued is that when Rivera / Gettleman ran things we had the most successful era of Panthers football ever, including a historic season.

I gotta feeling the Bears job belongs to Harbaugh. If not him though, someone else likely takes it this year.

I don't know wizardry it was, but Rivera and Gettleman worked really well together. Neither of them found success apart. Richardson fired Gettleman after what was probably his best draft. I'll always wonder what could have been if he hadn't been so dead set on bringing Marty back.

Word also that Teddy Bridgewater is retiring.

This likely means the end for Hurney as well. Marty got his start in Washington under Bobby Beathard. He'll finish his career where it begin.

The nostalgia to have former players like Newton and Olsen come back and save us is fun and all, but...no. There are a million things that a team president does that have nothing to do with football. That's why it's the kind of thing you ideally work your way up to.

Telesco was actually with the Panthers scouting department in the beginning (1995-1997). He's got a pretty good reputation, but no connection to David Tepper that I know of.

Pretty heavy rumors about him going to the Commanders...

I'd say it also has to do with the question of who we can get (and who we can't)

On coaching...

Or try to make a big splash. I've wondered if he might try to make Catherine Raiche the NFL's first female GM for PR reasons. Whether or not she's good? Don't know enough to say except she's risen to an assistant GM role in Cleveland.

Irsay then replaced him with Jeff Saturday. He pushed to keep Saturday during their coaching search too. People were scared to death he wouldn't let go.

It turned out to be like the Dolphins and Eagles "all star teams" from a few years back...lots of great players that didn't work well together.

Which part?

He's gonna have to. Guaranteed contract, full control...that's what Lynch and Shanahan got. Hard to imagine Peters taking anything less.

Two of those years were with Matt Rhule, and then all the dysfunction of this year thrown in. But it doesn't matter now. He backstabbed the coach. There's no way in hell you can keep him.