Mr. Scot

The way people talk about Young it sounds like he's damn near a savant. If not for that frame...

I did a quick search of "CJ Stroud leadership" and found this chronicling some answers he gave at last year's Big Ten media day. “If you ask me what a quarterback is, I definitely think I would definitely say a leader. I think on and off the field, I think off the field is probably more important, you build trust. I think leadership is all about trust, if I have trust in my guys they’ll do anything for me and I’ll do anything fro them so I do invite a lot of my teammates over, either side of the ball, even if you’re a specialist I don’t care, lineman. I’ll either cook something or order something and we just eat, have a good time, talk, play the game, do whatever, just have fun and be boys. So I definitely think it’s important to build that trust off the field so on the field we just ride for each other,” Stroud said. Stroud added that he’s established himself as a vocal leader of the team, and believes that accountability is a two way street. “Honestly I think I do everything, I’m very vocal, sometimes I think I’m too vocal, I try to keep it real just because I feel like those who keep it real with you in your life are the ones that do care. I try to call my guys out but I often tell them to call me out if I’m doing something wrong just because I like constructive criticism as well,” Stroud said. Stroud is a jack of all trades when it comes to leadership, being not only a vocal one, but one that can lead by example and relate to everyone on his team. “Lead by example type as well, first one in last one out, watch a lot of film, and I could probably tell the defense what the offense is going to do just off of film, I do watch a lot,” Stroud said. “It’s other things I have in my leadership ability and I think probably the most important one is being able to relate, I can relate to everybody on the team from different cultures to different backgrounds, you name it and I can relate to them in some type of way or I can understand where they come from and put myself in their shoes.” Link

Well if you hate the Thursday night idea, you're gonna be really pissed if Florio is right...

This is something that should be obvious to anybody with a brain. And yet most NFL owners either seem to not know about it or not care enough about it to weigh it into their consideration. Kudos to Mara at least for thinking of the fans.

Definitely

That's the kind of thing that I expect them to dig into with their visits.

There are definite signs that Orlovsky is full of sh-t. For one, at the time frame he was talking about there wouldn't have been much of a plan in place because the coaching staff was still coming together. I do think it's likely that we talk to him about a role on the staff, but I'm not sure it was as "high up" as he's indicated. That may have been why he's supposedly declined...if he really did.

Mara called it "abusive" The reason this is being looked at is because Amazon got a lot of sh-tty games last year and they were none too happy about it. So the question comes down to whether the NFL cares more about pleasing a streaming partner or their loyal fans. Sadly, I think we all know the answer to that question

Ellis Williams did a pretty thorough analysis of Richardson looking at both the positives and the negatives. The final conclusion was that Richardson is very inconsistent and would be a hit or miss "rollercoaster" type pick. His final take... The No. 1 pick should be used on the most risk-averse prospect, not a best-case-scenario-proposition. Link

So would I, but this idea is an abomination. John Mara said it well in explaining his 'no' vote...

On the exact same page...

I don't think it is. What happens with Stroud I think is that when the skill players see how good a position he can put them in with the accuracy of his passing, they're very much going to gravitate to him.

Dear Lord in Heaven, no

Florio reports that the Panthers and Broncos abstained from the vote. He thinks either of them could use the leverage of agreeing to vote yes to get something from Goodell. With the Broncos, it's wanting to host the Draft. As to the Panthers...he doesn't know. For the record, I absolutely hate this idea and even if it would mean getting something from the league (not sure what) I'd prefer they vote 'no'.

Have pondered the same many many times...

Everything I've read about him (including this article) says that he has a very even keeled personality. Delhomme was fiery. Newton was energetic. Stroud? Probably more like Frank Reich.

It wasn't just the ability to adjust on the fly. Pretty much anyone who comes up with a new wrinkle is going to go up against someone else who finds a way to beat it. What you have to be able to do then is turn around and tweak it or find something else to make your attack effective again. Shula had plenty of time both after Atlanta and after the Super Bowl to find some new things to add to his offense and make it work again. Even with a whole offseason to plan, he couldn't do it. I still say he's good as a QB coach, but I'd never want him as an OC again.

This is where I'm at... The top selling points for each of the big four, i.e. if you had to pick one thing, what are they best known for: Stroud - Accuracy Young - Intelligence Richardson - Athleticism Levis - Arm Strength Given those terms, I'm gonna compare the first two, and note that in most cases what one has, the other has also (accuracy, intelligence, processing, etc). The most obvious thing one has which the other doesn't? Prototype size. So the pick for me is Stroud.

It's not his strength. Pretty much everything I've read about Richardson includes some form of one specific word: inconsistency. That's something that short circuits an awful lot of guys at the pro level, and I suspect it'll short circuit Richardson as well. Bottom line for me... CJ Stroud is a quarterback with pro level skills. Bryce Young is a smaller quarterback with pro level skills. Anthony Richardson is an athlete that you're going to have to teach how to play quarterback at the pro level. Will Levis is the same thing as Anthony Richardson. Give me the guy that's already got the skill set and has a better frame to handle the punishment.

Honestly, I find it hard to believe anyone could read that article and not want him here.

Related to the article...

You should check out the Feldman article in the other thread.

Those analysis points all sound like they're talking about a professional quarterback. If he's already that good at the college level, imagine what he could be like with our staff coaching him up.

Drew Brees and Tom Brady were never what I'd call exciting quarterbacks, but you'd sit back and watch them just surgically pick your team apart and wonder how the hell they were doing it. I'd really like to be on the other side of that scenario, and I feel like Stroud could put us there

The Feldman article I just posted really reinforces my feelings about Stroud.