kungfoodude

For the PS, without question. I just don't think we tote 3 QB's into the regular season.

I honestly cannot recall. I would be interested to read that article if you do find it. I don't personally view him as a top 10 CB. I haven't seen enough of him on the field to justify that. Top 5 overall potential, without any question at all.

Yeah, positional value is a big factor here, hence why a lot of our premier players aren't there. We have most of our strengths at non-premium positions.

I don't think the NFL views Horn as the player that we do. Remember, availability is an ability. TBH, if we had let him hit the market, I don't think you would have seen a ton of longer term contract offers precisely for that reason.

Curious to see the guaranteed portion. That's a wild price tag.

CB room could use some upgrades. Hopefully we look at something there.

Man, that guy went down the tubes quickly. I honestly thought he was gonna be pretty good.

@frankw Let's just stop derailing this thread with this crap. None of us are going to agree on it and it's an extremely irrelevant discussion to the cuts. Let's all just move on to actual cut news and table this fiasco to some later date or a standalone thread.

It's definitely a historical issue at QB but to be perfectly blunt, we also don't do a good job of really developing almost any position if you look at the last decade or so. I tend to be on the side of that being far less a development issue than an evaluation deficiency. I think we are in the situation at QB2/3 recently due to the overall roster being absolutely abhorrent and the QB classes being quite thin. It is harder to justify another Matt Corral(or several) when you can potentially get a real two deep contributor at other positions. But, it was a lot of hard work to get to the point where are roster is so incredibly bad that luxury picks literally are not in our vocabulary. This is the reaping what you sow portion of our history.

Lol. Worst case? I think you mean most likely result. I don't think people are going to be wasting much breath on Dalton or QB2 if Bryce flounders this year. It's going to be people calling for coaches, GM's and owners heads for the mess we got ourselves in with Bryce in the first place. Rightfully so.

They have drafted two QB's since they took Hurts in the 2020 Draft. Tanner McKee(6th - 2023) and Kyle McCord(6th - 2025). In that span we have drafted Bryce Young(1st - 2023) and Matt Corral(3rd - 2022). Technically, we have invested significantly higher draft capital on QB's(albeit one less than they). It's not the investement that is the issue, it's the results. Corral was literally not a rosterable player with a THIRD ROUND PICK. We gave up a king's ransom for Bryce to basically get Davis Mills results(so far).

Yeah. I mean I watched a pretty good chunk of their games and that coach definitely put him in a position to succeed very often with that Ferrari offense. I think you saw what they really thought about him when they let him walk out the door. I am telling you, watch what transpires. I for one will not be surprised at all.

I think you are just lashing out pointlessly because you are just generally butthurt. I have no idea why the backup QB suddenly is the most important thing in your mind but by all means, keep ranting away. I can assure you, our failure or success this season will have very, very little to do with that.

Yeah and that is why I am flabbergasted that all this wailing and gnashing of teeth over fuging backup QB's is even happening. Who. The. fug. Cares.

I can't help you see it, buddy, but it really shouldn't take much more than a look around NFL depth charts and it should immediately become fairly obvious he isn't anywhere close to a lower end backup. The Saints and their QB "decisions" are probably not the best example of a functional organization. But, please do tell me how Tyler Shough is the guy we should really have.