kungfoodude

Yeah, the big sting is the trade up price. That will hurt for a very long time. Had it worked out differently and we just drafted him at 9, it wouldn't be nearly as big of a deal. Either way, time to move on. It's a very long way to build a winner here but you can at least see that it might actually be possible for once.

Agreed, it would be a good story but I am pretty skeptical. The reasons he was not successful are typically hard to fix

You do realize that everything you are wishing for was during the Tepper era, right? And your big wish was 6-6 football. Speaking of Stockholm Syndrome, holy poo. May God have mercy on your soul.

Pining after the Darnold era is peak desperation. This is your personal rock bottom as a Panthers fan. That was so far from a good thing it's laughable.

He also has the best OL has has ever had. He is almost last in the league in Time To Throw.

Diggs wouldn't have won them that game. Yes every team has divas but it just depends on the level of diva and if it is ruining chemistry.

Howell is probably worth a late round pick(6th/7th) but Seattle might not be willing to let him go for that. The issue with Howell is that he is a Favre/Winston gunslinger. So, Dalton with substantially less sound decision making. He is probably best suited as a backup for a couple of more years to see if you can get him up to a Dalton/Mayfield level of being a "less TO prone" gunslinger. If you could get Dalton to start the next couple of seasons or so, with Howell riding the pine, that might be a decent development scenario for him.

A lot of people are going to see that Darnold is riding an unsustainable luck streak. If you do a deep dive in the stats, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Same with watching games live. He is about 4-6 INT's short of what he should be at.

Not always, that diva stuff can wear on a team eventually depending on the player. Look at Diggs in Buffalo. It just old. Look at literally every stop in Terrell Owens career(although he was literally a cancerous teammate). One could argue Steve Smith was a diva too but going back in the thread, I would argue he was less diva than pure hothead.

AT has very, very limited value. More likely something in the 6th/7th range.

Not a hothead, just the classic WR diva. It's not a rarity.

Diontae Johnson unfazed by trade rumors, prefers to stay with Panthers https://thescore.com/nfl/news/3089864

Well this is technically the last year on his contract(the remainder is void years). He would really have to take a hell of a team friendly deal for him to come back.

Also good to see all the fan nonsense about Bryce pouting/sulking is completely untrue. I think our team chemistry is far better than some of us think

Also good to see all the fan nonsense about Bryce pouting/sulking is completely untrue. I think our team chemistry is far better than some of us think.

I doubt there will be much improvement for the defensive unit. But, if individual players can improve(Wallace being one) then I think it will be about as successful as it can be. I suspect these lumps are gonna keep coming on D. It's just the side effect of having this little talent.

I mean, The King Of Pop has played quite well. Troy Hill has been struggling somewhat. Maybe they want an upgrade there.

Well if you have been out of it for a week.....I probably wouldn't look outside.....especially if you are still on mushrooms.

Well it's not really DB that is getting decimated with injuries, so it's a little bit of a head scratcher. Maybe switching to a 3-2-6 defense??

Generally speaking he has actually played quite poorly. But, he's also very much one of our "project" players that is being forced into action. It's a good opportunity for him gain a ton of experience and reps while not really hurting us much due to the historically bad nature of our defense overall.

You mean historically?

Pick a stat and I can give a top 10 or bottom 10.

So what were you thinking? Bottom 10 ranking for each?

I can try. What kind of stats are you looking for?

Not a big deal. If you want specifics, just ask and I will dig them up. I want this to be informative.