kungfoodude

That formula leads to success less than 30% of the time. That's not a formula I would be concerned about staying with.

Bryce isn't an NFL QB. That's the big issue. These guys aren't either but a couple of them have had more successful NFL careers to date.

Fair but everything in this thread is an opinion aside from that he is a bust. That's a fact.

Literally false starts everywhere.

XL has never cared much about this. He "made it" on social media and that's ehat he cares about. Not football. That's just going through the motions for a paycheck.

I think they should see value in trying to win. Continuing with Bryce is the opposite of that. If Canales still believes in Bryce, he can leave with him, IMO.

Probably was awkward when he couldn't understand some of the completely moronic questions Tepper asked. Or when he replied with football related things Tepper didn't understand.

I think you can see cracks in the facade of the offense. Carrying Bryce will weigh on them, no matter how much they may like him. They aren't stupid.

It's Heinicke I would be after or maybe Ridder. Middling, low end game managers but still should be a step up. If not....on to the next.

I don't think he responds to anything because I don't think he cares even remotely about being a successful NFL player.

You mean lose them more than they already have?

Best available are probably: Nate Sudfeld Taylor Heinicke Tim Boyle Desmond Ridder Mike White

You have to actually want to get better.

It doesn't matter. Litigating the past is pointless. Move on with Dalton. If he isn't healthy enough, line up the FA QB's until you find one or he is healthy enough. I am up for it if he's healthy. I don't think he can be worse than Bryce simply because Bryce seems to continue to regress each week. He's approaching Gabriel levels and if he keeps regressing you may get sub-Gabriel play. That's nuts to continue.

I think once you have cleary established Bryce Young is not an NFL QB(as any intelligent football person should have by now) then it's time to just throw poo at all the wall and see if it sticks. That is at least trying. Beating your head against the wall over and over hoping your skull gets strong enough to get through concrete is just insane.

It wouldn't because he doesn't have the ability.

Sophomore slump? He was terrible last year too.

The point is that it's not Bryce. The same point you make for Winston. The results are gonna be the same or worse but it's not Bryce is the point.

Who cares? Then go with him.

I can understand the concept of this under the Rivera era where we had very strong locker room culture and respected veterans. Who in the fug could that possibly even be here? A couple of the OL? Jansen? These guys are a mishmosh of "never have had any success" or random veterans. Not saying it isn't possible but there being a lot of "strong leaders" in this group in terms od understanding NFL success is far fetched.

If he can't or won't bench Bryce then I have no use for him. He's just a yes man.

TBH, we won't know unless they say or some people get benched. It's pointless to even speculate. The greater point is that the coaching staff is allowing it to happen. So much for a "Leadership Council."

Jeff Lewis was the worst QB to ever wear the Panthers uniform. I have never seen anything like it.

I think Dillon Gabriel may have the worst arm I have ever seen.

I think it was a lot more than one person.