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I think that was always the case. Remember the clip of Cam and Luke on the phone with Norman before they played the Redskins? You could tell there they had a genuine friendship.

I didn't want him because I thought he ran a gimmick offense and I HATED that Allbarn team that year(should have had like 5 losses but they kept winning). I believe my quote was, "Drafting Cam Newton will be the biggest mistake in franchise history." That crow turned out to be very delicious.

How did you not know this? It was a story early in the season. He does not fit the system at all.

Yeah, that is about what those sources are worth. That is easily verifiable information and they are not correct at all.

Plus Shannon and Cam might be too similar in delivery. They usually like two people of different styles on those idiotic horseshit shows.

That statement wouldn't really apply to either of these teams. Take a look at their total appearances since 2013.

Well, I used to have a saying about the NBA draft process(in the 90's-eaely 2000's). At year one everyone sees potential and they ignore the flaws. The longer you stick around they see more flaws than potential.

That was leaky by Koochie. Not that a mistake wasn't made before then but ultimately he needs to stone the firat attempt, at least

The truth is, KC was a defensively led team this season. It was what allowed Mahomes to be throwing to subpar WR's all year and still winning.

If you gauge things by our relative success, we'd love to have Greg Schiano. This thread has absolutely nothing to do with Panthers football.

Yeah, I think people are gonna be sorely disappointed in the kinds of players looking to join us in free agency. Not saying they will all be like that but there aren't gonna be guys kicking the door in to get here.

Well, you have to consider that we did actually TRY with Icky, although that appears to be a pretty suspect decision, at the very best. We really never have tried with Kalil.

Watson just wasn't viewed as an elite guy. He got the "successful system college guy" rap.

Well the difference is that this just happened to them in 2020. That doesn’t make this an outlier.

He is overrated in the sense of winning. His talent isn’t questionable but he is also 11-10 in his career in the playoffs. For reference, a much less talented Eli Manning was 8-4 in the playoffs. Heck, Cam was 3-4. That's the point. He had an embarrasment of talent over his career in GB yet delivered one title. I don't see how he is in the same class as a winner as the guys he is compared to.

For WR's, we literally need playmakers. Guys that can get open and make plays in space. If you suck at any of that, you aren't gonna be any better than TMJ or Mingo.

He was very bad at the Senior Bowl, though. He seems like a Rhule guy. High potential, crazy low floor.

You mean as opposed to looking at their RAS and combine results and determining by that?

They will be because we owe them 100% of their rookie deals, here or not

Bozeman is not the answer. We need to improve that position very badly.

I think a Panthers Brock Purdy in 2023 would have been pretty bad. I do think a lot of his success is that system. After all, Jimmy G looked good in that system too.

He really does suck. But, he was just one of those guys in a weak QB class that got heat with little background. Not a super rare story.

Purdy also wouldn't be starting if another elite game manager didn't repeatedly whiff on TD passes in the NFC Championship game. That is where having one of those guys hurts, when you need elite plays at critical times.