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Or is Ward a Mayfield/Stafford "ball control" gunslinger?

I am not even hyper focused on the positions necessarily(DE/Edge seems like a must given depth) but get three fuging absolute day one competitive players for a starting role. This seems like the draft like this should be a thing.

Cam is Jameis, IMO.

Dude, this class is so loaded at DE and EDGE it would be CRIMINAL to not trade down provided one of the big boys doesn't drop. I want three picks in the top 60. Period.

Interesting amount of defensive turnover.

I also thought this was a solid signing but nice to see a pivot quickly rather than our usual hubris of "well we are smarter" and a double down. I still believe Dan is an average or above average pro personnel guy. I just wish he had any clue in the draft.

My fear is literally we fall in love with a guy like this. This is my nightmare. Even Carter is excusable but Pearce is not better than the next 10 guys at EDGE, IMO.

I know but I am talking the whole totality. It's just...bad. Look, the physical skills still pop even at the NFL level. The throws he can make are absolutely bananas. But....he makes them too infrequently and the other decisions are so insanely bad.

TBH, he is kind of a one year wonder(natural red flag) and his skill level has never even this past year matched his production. He was also a very "sugar or poo" guy. Either he was dominant or he was nonexistent. It's a little tough because Penn St. has such a crazy history of guys being busts or being utilized completely differently than their NFL fit. He just scares me a lot and I really, really want nothing to do with him at #8. Give me him as a trade down at 15-32, brother I am all in.

I disagree generally. He was SOOOOOO bad on tape. His misses were by a country mile, much like they are in the NFL. You couldn't possibly drop enough balls to justify a sub-55% completion percentage especially when that has historically been a fairly decent indicator of lack of NFL success(as in, rarely do you get MORE accurate in the NFL). Richardson seemed like a Cam Newton/Kyle Boller hybrid to me.

IMO, Carter. I just do not buy into him at all. I do realize I am at risk of looking foolish but I just do not see the hype OTHER than physical traits. He seems like a poor man's Brian Burns, TBQH.

It's not necessarily less informative. The public only gets to see small amounts that matter. The interviews are a big deal if you do them correctly. Also, the combine tends to be an information bubble. So, if I see an Underwear Olympics MVP but had an underwhelming college career, does something on the tape pop out? Was he not being utilized correctly? Was there some issue that wasn't the players fault? Or is this an Ian Thomas practice MVP? The combine gives everyone an idea about the physical and athletic capabilities of an athlete but not necessarily how that translates to NFL success. That is a vastly more complex problem to solve. It involves tape study, player interviews/interactions, doing background research, etc, etc. The old school Al Davis "Combine Star" method does not work. At all. It's basically what we have done in Carolina for quite some time.

I don't think there is a guy at that position in that class of bust. Richardson has strong Jamarcus Russell vibes. I will never understand how people were fooled by him. I will say at QB Cam Ward is a little scary. He leans gunslinger, so the bust risk is just naturally higher, although his physical abilities are clearly the best in this draft at QB.

This is an eye of the beholder draft because of the lack of elite options, IMO. I think it might be one of the wilder drafts in the first two days.

How about good at football? How about likes to play football? How about wants to be the best at football? Seems like we mostly ignore those guys.

The copium being mainlined by our fanbase is sometimes a nearly fatal dose. Even known dipshit Mel Kiper could probably run this team better.

Yeah, this is called selective memory. Go back and look at the draft threads over the past decade. It's about 95% better decisions than our FO. But, by all means, continue to be cucked by poor decision makers. It's clearly working so well for us.

Mock drafts are generally pretty bad at the moment. They start getting better post-combine.

Depends on who else is available too but I would love to snag him for sure.

Graham is not actually a consensus top 10 guy.

It might actually be harder to fail as badly as they have than it is to be simply mediocre.

Did you not read the "Huddle consensus" part of this theory? That's the point. Huddle consenus has been DRAMATICALLY better than the actual Panthers Front Office for years now. Think about that.

Fitterer put the Hurney vs. Gettleman discussion so far in the rear view that argument should never come up again. Fitterer was steadily climbing to a Matt Millen level of suckitude.

You are thinking we would run this like Tepper's boys do.