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2023 offensive staff was full actual of NFL guys. So who wasn't very nice? Probably all of them. Asst HC Duce, QB Coach McCown, OC Brown, WR Jefferson, OL Campen, HC Frank, etc. All former players. NFL guys. New staff is lighter on actual NFL guys. HC didn't play. OC didn't play. QB coach didn't play. Asst HC/RB didn't play. OL didn't play. So I could see this O staff having a very different approach and not being as hard on dudes. Not saying one way yields better results than the other. But I could totally see guys that have done it being tougher verbally.

He hasn’t even made it to training camp yet. basically every coaching staff from middle school to the NFL

I mean, I was on record as team Sanders at the start of his college football venture. But Sanders has basically pulled the curtain back on himself IMO. Deion is the only one influencing me.

and they won just a whole 4 games this year. with a completely overhauled roster in a pay to play world......with what some are pimping as a game changing QB. they didn't overachieve. I think they are poorly coached. I think they have poor leadership....and both showed down the stretch. Deion is a great marketer. Always has been. What am I talking about with the QB who did them no favors? He plays with his completion % and TD/INT ratio in mind. He avoids throws and opts for completions and he flat out opts to take sacks. Hard to debate that. All those sacks aren't on the OL. They weren't great. Call them bad. But plenty of big name QBs saw more pressure or comparable pressure...... and took less sacks. But team Sanders is about team Sanders and Shaduer going into the NFL. Not Colorado.

video also says QB Bryce was horrible pre snap and post snap. That's how you make whatever your OL is......look way worse. And he wasn't good at that at Bama either per the guy in the video. He also spoke about how Bryce's size forces him too far back in the pocket. Which is going to screw up pass pro.

well, I was assuming in this scenario Bryce was healthy. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't pick the top 16 O and it was Dalton that drove the bus. QB is the most important. Tough to get to get to a top 16 O without Bryce playing pretty well in year 2. I mean, unless our run game just is top of the league and can get us there with no pass game to back off a D.

Sanders played last season with his personal stat line in mind. And did his OL no favors even if you want to call them trash. And I think you can legitimately question his DNA as a leader present day. Penix and Nix both played big boy college football....and won. Sanders won 4 games at Colorado and is on 6 game losing stretch.

I mean, they were very different. But Newton had to go to Blinn and NC his way back into real college football. Then basically 1 man showed a weak Auburn team to a Natty. Cam Newton, then entered the NFL, IMO as the most scrutinized player QB in NFL history to date. And had more negative/anti folks for what was a #1 overall QB than you see at that spot. Maybe underdog is the wrong word for Cam. Probably need to tie it into how he dealt with adversity and those wanting him to fail. But Cam from the day he made himself eligible for the NFL.....Cam was essentially up against it all. He almost has to embrace a loveable villain role or something. Jake's as you said, is pretty textbook and Kurt Warner-ish. The long road to the NFL starter spot. Bryce was basically a Trevor, Clausen, textbook path. Golden boy status from day 1 of his football journey. So yeah, maybe adversity is really the root of what I was trying to get at. I like a QB that deals with the non-ideal stuff well and succeeds.

Baker Mayfield largely had CJ Stroud #'s last year. and it resulted in the 23rd ranked O and worst run game in the NFL if we have the 16th ranked O....I think it is more of a guarantee the O and Canales is overall on the right track to be successful.

I went top 16 O I feel that would potentially check multiple boxes

yeah, Cam Newton and Jake Delhomme had the underdog card/vibe. Not Bryce. Hate to bring up his name again but he is more of the Clausen mold/path.

I mean, he went and played for dominant programs. And a lot of those dudes, are really just 1 of 11. They aren't all they do is win players. Which is basically the recent history of Bama QBs.

true underdog mentality is that everyone else is wrong....and you actually have the ability to shut people up. Hard to embrace that, if you don't actually believe that. I don't view as underdogs presently. I view us as lacking the talent we need to compete. It's a QB driven league. And we mortgaged our future on a unique QB.....who we are just inserting into standard offenses he isn't going to fit.

the talent and scheme didn't match his style of play. but yeah, he was also a rookie that didn't make throws sometimes that were there. 2 things can be true.

disagree. going into last year....some said Frank's O and the talented we added around Bryce didn't fit very well. And that he would likely struggle as teams sat on our pass game with Bryce. And that was basically how the entire season unfolded. They didn't have the talent or scheme for Bryce to get the ball out quick....and the results were going to be bad for him without it. It's not his fault given we drafted him...but Bryce not fitting what we wanted to do offensively, killed the O. Mentioning that got you destroyed on the board last year. That's still the case IMO. Bryce Young is not the QB that you want running a Canales O. But again, that won't be Bryce's fault. This is all Tepper's creation and pairing of things.

I feel largely the same way I did entering last year. What we are attempting to be on O.....doesn't matchup with Bryce Young. Scheme nor talent. I think Canales would pair much better with a young Jake Delhomme. And Johnson and XL would be great additions for a young Jake Delhomme. It would be fun. Bryce is going to make this OL look worse. He is too small to be in a traditional pocket/scheme at this level. Bryce Young needs an innovative/Bryce Young centric O scheme to succeed with a bunch of quick YAC check down talent. That's not Canales.

I think you can not of wanted to pay Burns…and still acknowledge he was elite at one specific thing. Which we don’t have right now on the roster.

Yeah, once the actual games the power Cam run plays started . The designed run game. Cam had to be defended different than preseason which was trying to grow his pass game paired with a neutered rush threat

Got to think Cam being so unique to defend in real games was a heavy factor. League just had never dealt with what that O presented. They had seen Vick mimics that run away from people. Not dudes that could run over any of the 11 defenders. It took a year of film on Cam. That zone read struggled to open up year 2 once they adjusted on it

Ron actually did have sort of hidden O that didn’t really come out until the regular season. It was such a college heavy look. Basically what Frank pretended he had up his sleeve but didn’t . defenses were facing something unique when Cam rolled out into the league. With Bryce, it was just Frank standard junk with a QB that wasn’t able to challenge folks with the full field

Not looking big picture and just looking going into 2024 WR is an upgrade on paper. But they both are on the outside which is going to be the toughest part of the pass game for Bryce to get it done. I mean, I’m not sure a rookie TE in the 4th round replacing Hurst makes a TE room better on paper going into a season. I don’t think Brooks suits up to start off the year but when he does I think he gives it a slight upgrade in 2024. I mean, D is a push IMO. Probably comes down to what are opponents actually turn out to be. But reality is we lost Luvu and Burns.

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work? Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played. Then smashed the record books out the gate. Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job over Clausen. Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good). But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. You never know….

If it doesn’t work with Bryce….I just have one wish. Actually burn the thing to the ground. Quit keeping parts of a disaster to fix the last disaster.

We love boogeymen here too. It’s just Joe Brady!! It’s all him! Meanwhile Rhule was a cartoon clown. Then it was all Rhule. Fitterer is actually great! Matt was in complete control! Now it was all Frank.

Yeah, but that’s just standard talk. Same stuff said entering every year for every team. Like last year. Just echoing what Frank wants. Jim Caldwell won the Game of Thrones last year. He clearly rose in power during that poo show. How else does he help pick the hires this year. The offensive assistant also remains. I can accept keeping the entire D coaching staff intact but I have long said….something doesn’t smell right about Caldwell surviving all this. How exactly did he gain so much favor and survive. Same for the O assistant.