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There are tons of articles breaking BTJ’s bad play down this year. Specifically him shying away and giving up. Especially early this year. That’s when he was at his worst. Hell, he has been better post “injury”. and the entire BTJ break out was all Mac. Not Trevor. Those are polar opposites throwing the ball. BTJ has sucked this year. Just a fact. People defending him and claiming others don’t watch is just silly. And for the record, the guy who says Trevor has a PJ Walker brain doesn’t want Trevor lol. I also had to talk sense into people when half the board wanted Watson lol. Not sure what the spin attempt elsewhere in the thread is about lol.

I mean they weren’t. Dude was getting roasted by everyone early this year. It’s a simple google. It’s not my creation lol. now will Trevor leave someone hanging? Every now and then. Dude is more PJ Walker between the ears than Peyton

I mean A+ for effort boss. You doing a victory lap with no victory shown lol. saying Renfrow should only make the roster over Moore or that today he likely serves more purpose for Bryce than Horn (if it’s a Bryce convo)….isn’t a example of Clemson homerism. Nor is pointing out BTJ has sucked this entire season and especially before his in season shoulder injury. And I consistently call Trevor operating with a PJ Walker operating system brain that dates back to Clemson. You manifesting the over the top homerism here lol

All this big time throw stuff and junk from last season always leaves out a very important fact about last season…… actual number of passes completed. And it wasn’t good then. Just like his rookie season before or this year.

Tell me you don’t watch the Panthers yet have to churn out content. Bryce not that bad….because Carolina has managed to win a couple really odd ball games where he was largely a spectator?

you trying to use a week 7 injury explain away why he has been compete ass the entire season? dude was given a thumbs up and all dealt from the mini camp thing. If you are going to use that then every player in the NFL got a forever excuse hell, without looking I’ll bet you a nickel most of his drops are before week 7. And his trash play was talked about nationally before week 7 BTJ also has never had any chemistry with Trevor. Ever. The whole BTJ breakout wasn’t even with Trevor it…was with a noddle arm QB that plays the game different/different ball than TL. THAT is the real issue. Dude don’t want to catch them balls.

Yeah, it’s big. He was playing scared of contact and with really bad hands. And the Jags around Trevor have let him down in some big moments. Trevor is sort of consistent IMO in his inconsistency. He has been Trevor. Biggest problem is the Jags primary WR didn’t show up this year. I keep tabs on the Jags. Trevor is no different than what they paid for. I’d trade BTJ.

well we do disagree. And it’s really semantics. Tepper has hired and fired at really absurd levels at Charlotte FC and the Carolina Panthers (both coaches and front offices). Thats IS admitting mistakes and moving on quick (which isn’t always the NFL way). You claim it’s blaming others. Doesn’t really matter how you frame it. The moving on action is what it is. end of the day when things are bad, Tepper is not the type to keep giving things that don’t work time. That’s the philosophy of others. Which you see by lots of NFL time. Two different ways ego plays out. Tepper isn’t riding some stock down the toilet when he realizes it is bad. He sells. Sure he might lay blame. but the sticking with Bryce aspect screams others IMO. Not Tepper.

Not sure you really disagreed lol

NFL is slam full of bias and idiots….who pretend things are super complicated. Like everywhere else. They generally aren’t complicated. Bad decisions get made because of ego and idiots. Bryce Young didn’t fit Frank and didn’t fit Dave. It’s not rocket science. It’s legos. why didn’t Baker work here? Well, he wasn’t allowed to be Baker and he was never given the team to be Baker. Sam IMO was largely Sam and given the opportunity to be it. DJ Moore just isn’t the last 2 WRs Sam has been paired with

I think this is Twitter fan talk. Contract keeps Trevor there. I think BTJ has been the real let down in that O this year. More so than Trevor.

BTJ has played bad this year though. Leads NFL in drops as well. Trevor’s played better than his stats show. But he has always been scatter brained since Clemson

I still don’t get the Dan Morgan mental gymnastics and how folks have invented this world where Morgan quietly raged against all Fitterer’s decisions with no evidence. I think odds are Bryce present day is here because of Morgan more so than Tepper. Tepper is horrible at hiring but Tepper isn’t the type to get stuck on ideas or people or afraid to admit mistakes (his is the opposite).

Trevor is basically a lab created perfect QB physically…,,but with a PJ Walker operating system controlling it

Baker Mayfield, Darnold, Danny Dimes, Mack. Geno isn’t a unicorn. Putting people in places and scheme where they fit is 50% of the puzzle. Too many teams make things painfully hard. Like us, we spent all that a a QB that never was going to fit Frank or Dave. And we are still here. Just wasting time. It’s like running Darren Sproles like Jerome Bettis and being confused why the results are bad

We don’t need to draft a QB if Canales stays. We don’t need to keep the inheriting other people’s decision thing going. Canales would have to earn the right with a vet to stick around. Otherwise, you most likely are letting Canales draft a QB you think force on the next staff. Thats not how it should work. See us now. All the hiring and firing we do, we never clean house properly. you anever know when a class is actually going to be good or not. The Trevor/Fields class was supposed to be an awesome time to draft a QB at this point

Got to think multiple guys calling it out….likely are calling out a legit issue as a means to yield results. Legit problem mindsets in house. It’s also odd it’s not the “leaders” in Carolina calling this poo out

Who is on the leadership council?

Dalton thumb been busted up for years. We can start him but it just leads back to Bryce. That’s the scam. insane we don’t have a youngster on the PS

Almost every sideline vertical ball he throws turns into some whack jump ball fade. He never really gives anyone a chance to go get it….even when they have their guy beat. And we have seen them have a step. Everything is a jump ball basically taking them out of bounds or the back of the endzone. and when asked to not go sideline he normally just holds it and kills the call…..

Our GM, just like last year, has made not going with Bryce a nearly impossible feat. only option is a washed Dalton with a hurt throwing hand thumb

Yeah, you got multiple Panthers now saying it.

I do not believe this is true at all. Bryce scrambling means no proper base. Means his weak arm is at it's weakest. Which means downfield throws are even more risky for him. as the OP says, you can see the deep calls. Bryce normally has time. Holds. Scrambles or checks down. The balls Bryce Young will throw downfield are generally when the call has something on the sideline. And Bryce makes these throws super hard on WRs. They generally are turned into jump balls 90% of the time when that's not what the throw asks for. I think the only deep ball he is comfortable attempting is when he can borderline push the ball out of bounds if the WR doesn't' get it.

Bryce has to finish out this season. Every game. It's the only way I believe Dan Morgan will move on from his dude. Leave no doubt or room for him to keep hanging on to his and Fitterer's guy.

I mean the Colts owner is literally in a headset on the field w/ a notepad lol. I still think the bulk of the bad decisions are squarely made by the bad people he hires. Not him telling them what to do. I think the GM team sold Tepper on Bryce. By all reports it is was split decision in house. Tepper agreed w/ that side of the house. Not an order by a king. Reporters largely sniff it all out and it's not how they reported it. And I think we know team Frank was anti- Bryce and pro CJ. They lost.