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I don't think Samuel is even a tweener. He is a slot WR that you can scheme some quirky stuff for around the line of scrimmage or backfield. Never made sense to draft him in a draft where you draft CMC though. CMC was going to eat everything you would essentially draft Samuel to do. And oddly enough, his best year......CMC was hurt the whole year.

Curtis Samuel could take it to the house. Sadly, we only used him properly 1 season.

31 teams in the NFL are going to start Deebo over AT in the slot.

I will say, I do like what you did right here. Independent of whatever yall are debating.

Didn't he buy Foxy's old place? He isn't just a member, he could watch from his window.

talk about a swing, from the hottest team in MLS to the coldest.

you generally don't get to pick your nickname. If you did, we would all have super cool ones.

every year of the Tepper era we enter a season where people are thinking the light can be seen. Varies year to year the number claiming we are finally climbing out of the gutter but it always exists. Hell, there was a movement here in Rhule's legit lame duck pointless last year year where he was forced to pull the blackballed Ben McAdoo out of the gutter getting hyped. I'll believe it when it actually occurs at this stage. I still contend the constant in the Tepper era has been random parts being put together. I still think the QB doesn't match the weapons and coach. So we will see. I'm still expecting a bottom 3rd O and D this year. I think what our opponents happen to look like will largely define our record. But I think we still hover in the 6-7 win world.

if that game was officiated honestly/good....the Panthers win. They weren't going to let Cam get that win when they could of added another bonus on the lore/legend of Peyton Manning.

I feel all lower paced sports will struggle going forward w/ eyeballs. I mean, America's pasttime might do a good job of ripping off the youth/parents with forever baseball and 58 little league world series each year you can play in......but MLB is a tough watch vs other sports. Golf the same. We are grooming humans to need constant action thanks to the magically internet. Hard to watch a game where the "action" and excitement might be a moment once an hour.

sometimes you got to take a step back and really appreciate how uniquely horrific and uncompetitive the Tepper Panthers have been........and fully appreciate how it expands beyond the NFL. We are a team/org all of sports recognize as the definition of bad (I assume we still hold the title of worst win % in all of pro sports in the Tepper era).

But just for the record, you basically just agreed with all the things that I was using for why I think his rookie year will be quieter than some’s expectations here. Slow off the line. Slow separation. Not as physical as his size suggests. Those are the things I think are going to take time to make him a good player at this level. I think it’s a realistic outlook that it’s going to take time to develop. if you can’t get off the line quick and can’t separate quick….that doesn’t really translate to short passing game weapon as a rookie. On top of the fact he isn’t as physical as his size suggests and is more finesse.

that type of QB, especially paired with a weaker NFL arm.....excel with quick game weapons though. it sounds like you are a big Tmac homer. I mean, if you are watching every snap he played in college. So, it's safe to say we likely won't see eye to eye on expectations for year 1. And my expectations on Tmac aren't all in his control. As I have also said, elsewhere, this is really year 2 for Bryce. So I expect the first half of the season to carry healthy odds of a year 2 regression (specifically the first half). Film, tendencies, and weaknesses in Dave's offense are going to be prepared for. out of curiosity, what cons to Tmac's game where in the scouting stuff you saw?

yeah, you can basically copy and paste my thoughts from this time last year. We are building an O more suited for Jake Delhomme than Bryce Young. Tmac and XL sound great for the downfield gunslinger Give them opportunities to make plays. From what I have seen, and the scouting stuff I have read.....TMac does not project as a get open quick WR. He is going to have to work on getting off the line at this level, getting open, etc. Which is all good. This you go to think people will be studs out the gate or you are hater logic just ain't what I do. Take my XL stance last year. I lobbied hard for him. When we drafted him I immediately told folks to pump their breaks on the wild expectations. If XL legitimately turned into what I think he can be.....his best setup in the league would not be paired w/ a QB like Young. if Bryce was going to be the dude, I would have lobbied for Ladd vs XL. I was an XL guy. And again, I would have gone Warren/Jeanty this draft. I would have invested in small ball talent for him to be the PG for.

looks like I was wrong on that going off memory. It was one of a couple stats I looked at the other week. Looks like I confused that league worst with the bad target %, yac per comp, etc stats I looked up. Where he was league worst. I still think solving the YAC and short pass game is the best way to maximize Bryce. He might of thrown deep ....but he has never been a good deep thrower. Outside of PFF declaring it with what ifs.

the Big 12 was weak last year. The PAC12 was not the best conference in the nation in 2023. Tmac is not a literal development prospect. Neither was XL. Those type dudes are on the practice squad. What he is a dude that most likely, given his style of play AND the O he is coming onto.....likely won't have a huge year in year 1. Most of the rookies that come into the league and wow.....play w/ big armed risk takers downfield. That's not where he is landing. He is landing on a team that needs dude to get NFL open and quick. I don't dislike Tmac, I don't dislike XL, I don't dislike BY. I do not think the Panthers are investing in offensive skill talent matches what the QB does well. Which is exactly what I said when we drafted XL.....who I lobbied for. Round hole, square peg is something I have been talking about since we first drafted Bryce and rolled w/ Frank Reich.

It's the NFL. And Tmac wasn't a great separator in a weak college conference. Seems pretty reasonable to think he will take some time to develop playing on the outside in the NFL. See our last big body outside WR that could get open in the SEC. My take on Bryce has NEVER changed. Bryce is best suited to take advantage of the slot, backfield, etc. It's a quick pass game. We recognized the quick PG aspect of his game but never put that into motion. Big body downfield WRs on the outside are NOT his natural go to guys. And there is a reason a completely washed up AT is our best weapon operating out of the slot. and I said the same thing about drafting XL. Square peg/round hole w/ Bryce. But I wanted XL because I assumed like most the Bryce experiment ended. Canales is building a downfield chunk passing roster.....which pairs with his Seattle/Tampa times. None of this talk is new. Bryce throws shorter than anyone in the NFL (did it last year).

I mean, outside of 1 game.....I can't recall Horn ever traveling in his entire career here. And most teams aren't rolling with a 1a and 1b playing opposite each other. To me, I'd throw Travis Hunter in the slot in the NFL. So yeah, if he doesn't travel w/ Thomas Jr......then he is going to see tons of reps on their other guys (like he does most games).

Dang, Belichick's girl making moves. Good signing by her.

Horn doesn't generally travel so the Jags could get him on Dyami Brown.... Horn should be on Thomas Jr 100% of the snaps IMO. That's what he is paid to do.

I'd wait. Nosebleeds won't be 200 later. and after glancing at tickets online just to see.....man, the fees all these ticket companies add on are criminal. Whatever the ticket would cost gets ballooned like crazy. I miss the old days where you just bought them off a dude outside the stadium.

yeah, we drafted a WR in round 1. All signs points he is going to have a development window. Just like XL (another first round WR). Neither of which are natural pairings with Bryce Young and how he plays the game. Drafting Tmac isn't going to drastically alter things this season most likely. in his final 8 games.....he was also meh/okay in 5 of the 8. Which is great given what he was, which wasn't shouldn't even be on a NFL field caliber. But the Panther passing attack as a whole or even cherry picked to only post benching......was a subpar NFL pass attack (which ranked dead last on the season). Too many IMO focus on the improvement vs where it actually stacks up vs the rest of the league. again, the defense SHOULD improve. Almost a certainty. It was historically horrific. So even a good improvement there leaves in the bottom 3rd of the league.

to an extent we still will be what we will be. We haven't drastically changed. We likely will be a bottom 3rd defense. We will likely be a bottom 3rd pass attack. I expect us to improve but we were really bad in both areas last year, so while we should improve in both areas.......I don't expect an Earth shattering change in those 2 departments.

seems like 7ish. Depending how the ball bounces, a little more or a little less.

the Colts release was actually awesome IMO. my favorite part was the one entity breaking the Minecraft grunts/sounds.....was the Jags head coach with this cringy DUUUVAAAL at the end.