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The good coaches really shine when they land an elite QB. Look at the Bengals with Burrow, Bills with Allen, and Chiefs with Mahomes. Bill B created a dynasty when he landed Brady (he also had his team playing well with Bledsoe before that). Rivera couldn’t even get back to back winning seasons with Cam, TD, Luke, and Olson. He is looking more like whoever is coaching LAC with Herbert. That’s the big difference to me. Rivera is good at stabilizing bad teams and getting them to respectable/average but he isn’t a coach anyone should really seek out and get excited about. I would be surprised if he lands another HC job once Washington is done with him. DC absolutely, HC I wouldn’t bet on it unless a team is really struggling.

All these coaches have had success even when you remove one key player. I’m simply removing Cam from Ron’s coaching career. It just proves that Ron didn’t make Cam as much as Cam made Ron look better than he was in my opinion. Frank isn’t an elite coach. He is the right coach to develop a young QB like Young. He is more of the right coach at the right time (or Reich coach if you want a good dad joke). What excites me about Reich is the staff he has surrounded himself with this year. Caldwell, Capers, Brown, Evero, McCown, Campen etc are a great combination of old and new coaches.

What is Ron's record without Cam? How is he doing in Washington? Cam made Ron look better than he was IMO because he had to carry the team. Give Cam a solid offensive minded coach and who knows how great he could have been. Look IMO Ron is a good high character man who knows defense, but unfortunately he is just an average HC in today's NFL. Give him an elite OC and yeah he could look good, but that OC would just plucked away for a HC job.

We need TMJ. Chark has a bad injury history and a slim chance of staying healthy all year. The drop after TMJ doesn't look good with Shi Smith and company.

Frank worked with Wentz went he was in the conversation for MVP before he got injured. He also had Foles playing great when they won the Super Bowl. Ron leaned on Cam to bail him out of bad play calling and bad situations. I saw a lot of run, run, long developing pass plays where Cam can try to buy some time with his legs. Put Cam in a system Daboll created for Allen or Steichen has created for Hurts and he would have had a more consistent, longer career IMO.

Right? He was 4/6 with one of his incompletions being on Shenault for running too deep on his route. All of this was having just over 2 seconds to throw the ball on average in his first preseason game of his career.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38193519/source-rb-dalvin-cook-sign-1-year-deal-jets?platform=amp Dalvin Cook to the Jets. That offense could be scary…

I think he is the same person as @CPantherKing. Both have similar terrible takes…

I assumed he meant the whole offense not just Young. Corral didn't really throw it deep very often.

I could see a 8-9 maybe 9-8 season. As long as we are trending in the right direction with Young developing I will be happy.

Higgins is arguably a WR1 as well. It's extremely hard to get that kind of talent in the WR room. The Bengals hit with Burrow, hit with Higgins, hit with Chase and then built their OL to solidify that offense. The Bengals have the best WR group by a good margin, but part of it was draft luck. Let's hope that Mingo can develop into an AJ Brown type of WR1 for Bryce.

Both rookies had their OLs let them down big time. Bryce, as expected, looked much better under pressure.

And our two best pass rushers played 0 snaps...

Still way too many questions to really predict how well his season will be. If our defense is top 10 and our OL gets back to his old form, we should be a nice competitive team that could surprise some people. Chark is a big X factor. He has the potential to be a WR1 like he was starting to become in Jax before the injuries. However there is still a lot of unknowns like how good will Mingo be his rookie year? Will TMJ take the next step finally? Will Tremble develop as a pass catcher under this new offense? Miles Sanders was number 5 in the league in rushing yards and he has nice hands that the Eagles never really used. He could end up being a nice compliment to Young depending on how our OL plays.

You are talking about 1 preseason game. The very first preseason game. I am talking about a whole season's worth of data and stats. I mean I watched Mahomes and the Chiefs starters get shut down by the Saints defense. Keep making long term judgement calls over a couples series in a meaningless game though and let me know how that works out for you....

No prime Drew Brees would be a ceiling. He has been advertised as being the most "pro ready" and with our staff there isn't a reason to think he won't have one of the better seasons as a rookie QB has had recently. There will be mistakes by him and by some of out other players trying to run a brand new system with a brand new staff, but I think Young should have a decent season overall.

That's exactly what we need for depth. Young OL like Zavala and Jensen who are just going to get better as they get more experience vs terrible vets like Jordan who have peaked and it's a very low awful peak....

Can we double check and make sure Jordan didn't get injured as well? Maybe even triple check....

Wilks didn’t look good after yesterday’s preseason game if we are judging the whole season by one meaningless game. Also how did Wilks do as HC for the Cards?

Yeah your QB has to read the full field quickly for it to have high success. Don’t get me wrong I’m sure our staff would love a WR1 like Chase or Jefferson, but I think a QB with Young’s brain could allow us to spend that money elsewhere. You basically have to draft one or pay a premium for one.

Which is why you should always draft additional OL later in the draft every year (which we seem to be doing now).

Jordan claiming his top spot. We just need to cut him.

If you have the right QB (and I think Young fits this mold) a bunch of solid weapons seems like the better approach. Defenses can try to scheme away 1 top player but it will be difficult to know where the ball is going to go if you can execute with a bunch of solid weapons. Brady won several with an elite weapon (I know he got Gronk later).