ForJimmy

Pressures CAN be as good as I stated. It can lead to bad decisions like INTs. All pass rushers miss on QBs because it’s a fine line between a good hit and roughing the passer. Burns is great and it looks like he is here to stay unless we get some insane offer for him so get use to him.

So CMC quits on his team when he could be cleared to play? He missed games in three separate stints in 2020: six games for an ankle sprain, four games with an A/C joint sprain, and four games with a glute strain. He missed another five games with a hamstring strain in 2021, and missed Week 12 onward with an ankle sprain. That injury history is not only alarming for its recency, but also because outside of the shoulder it's all lower body. His ankle, glute, hamstring, and ankle again have been hurt. Which means he's taking shots overtime. With that in mind, teams may have been wary to offer too much for McCaffrey. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/christian-mccaffrey-trade-injury-history/hatblf1dnzwqn8zpfieyynjb

Top 10 at 24. That list includes HoF guys line Donald that aren’t even edge rushers. You don’t think top 10 in the NFL is great? I do like how you claim we are overvaluing a guy after you cried we didn’t get enough from trading our always injured overpaid RB.

We overvalue a guy that a team just offered 2 firsts for. Makes sense….

Who cares what pick he was at this point it’s about production. Crosby is going to want to get paid too. Why do you think Burns is so bad against the run? Teams aren’t crushing us on the ground running his direction. Also keep in mind Burns was being coached by Snow who has been dropping him into coverage on 3rd and long. That’s a prime sack situation.

Von Miller is at the end of his career. He is still great, but taking him over a top 10 24 year old isn’t a good idea. Burns has more sacks than Crosby in equal number of games. Thank God you aren’t running a team. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who-has-the-most-sacks-the-last-3-seasons

Top 10 in sacks over the past 3 years that doesn’t even include pressures which can be just as good sometimes.

Mayes is our cheaper possibly better version of that.

If Wilks doesn’t want him playing yet we probably shouldn’t either. He knows how to run a defense.

Yeah I’m not concerned about 1 vs 10 or wherever we are picking, but I want to shed this bloated vet contracts and acquire as much draft capital as possibly while keeping the young take to on rookie contracts. We can move up or down to take a QB in the first. Reset the cap for 2024 and build around our new rookie QB.

Winning QBs in the Super Bowl? Why not just sign Foles or Flacco then as I am sure they will be available this offseason? People get hung up on just winning the big game. We want sustained success like the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals (are starting to get), Packers/Saints (previously had), Steelers and similar franchises. The Steelers had Big Ben retire and immediately drafted a QB in the first even with a weak class (maybe he is the answer maybe not, but they are probably going to keep trying until they get their guy). They all have or had elite QBs that they drafted. Sure you can pull an Eagles and win with a great team or the Broncos and win with an elite defense, but those teams missed the playoffs afterwards and fired their coaches. Broncos are so desperate to find their QB they threw away a draft and huge money at Russ. SB victories are going to be a tough measurement as Tom Brady has such a large portion of them. We want sustained success and not to be the franchise constantly talking about the Super Bowl we won however many years ago.

No you don't trade away young talented players on rookie deals for picks because one is a sure thing for the same money.

Who should Tepper have chosen? It was between Wilks and McAdoo and McAdoo was fielding the worst offense in the NFL. I think WIlks was the best candidate and gives them the best chance to win. Tepper even came down to the locker room and gave Wilks the game ball. I'm ok with a 5 win team because we are "tanking" or building for the future. We are trading away picks to acquire CJ Henderson, Shenault, or Gilmore. Out focus is developing our young talent, resetting the salary cap (2023 takes the big hit and 2024 is wide open), and collecting draft picks. Throw in a high 1st round pick QB and I think we are headed in the right direction.

Wilks never "tanked" before in the way you are describing. He had a bad team with a rookie QB (Rosen) who was proven he doesn't belong in this league so yeah he struggled to win. Why would he tank as a first year coach with a rookie first round QB?? He was fired after one year because they struggled which was not by design. I mean last year we started off 3-0 with CMC so I don't see how our 5 wins last year were mostly without him?

I want to see Chinn in Wilk's defense! Maybe he will use him correctly.

Let's sign Sam to a max also and let him and Mac battle it out.

I love it when you talk dirty you filthy little tank...

Chiefs and Bills are playing to win now. Do you see them trading away vets for draft picks? We are not playing to win now, as our main concern is the future which includes draft picks. Getting the picks for CMC solidifies we are not focused on winning now from a front office perspective. It we do then great! Our main concern is developing young talent and securing more draft capital to continue building.

Yep. You are either developing and building for the future or in win now mode. We are not in win now mode as we are not looking to trade for a missing piece or two from a team building for the future. Teams building for the future will trade away vet players to teams in win now mode. As we are the ones trading away our players we are building for our future.

Exactly. We aren't going to march our team out there and just punt it every play to lose. People are getting way too literal with this poo. Trade away the big contracts and get picks (CMC and RA). Sit any play with a mild injury (Horn) and roll with your young guys. It's how they "tank" in the NFL.

24 year old elite pass rushers probably don't become FAs very often. If they do it's usually a bidding war in which they pick where they want to go.

Pop Quiz The only team in the NFCS on a win streak is???????

Shaq is the last one that makes sense. Vet on a large contract. The rest are young building blocks for our future. Maybe Erving or random depth vets for a cheap return.

I love the optimism and yes the coaches and players are always in win now mode as they get paid to win games. The front office/organization as a whole is not. They are preparing for the future by selling off vets to the highest bidders. It's how NFL teams "tank."

So you think we are in "win now" mode? That we traded away 2 vet players (one arguable one of the best at his position) for future picks while taking a huge dead cap hit this year because we wanted their backups to play more? If we thought Foreman was our best shot all year why did he have so little reps up until this game? We also didn't go into the season things PJ Walker was the guy to take us to the playoffs. It's a 3 horse race for the top QB right now between Stroud, Levis, and Young. It probably depends which coaches/teams have which picks and how those players fit into their system. There is also a lot of football left. I don't think we are "tanking" to acquire a certain one. We are just concentrating on our future right now vs our present. We are almost certainly drafting a QB because we are working on the future not the present right now. Fitt has already mentioned he thinks the best way to acquire a QB is to draft your guy and develop him.