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Even Mac?!

All in is ignoring options to upgrade the position. This is dangerous on a QB who has already had issues in the league, but I do see some potential. Taking a QB that falls to 8 and letting them compete with Darnold is not “all in”. It’s more of a BPA position. Unless you have a proven franchise player at that position you should always be open to upgrading the position.

Yeah either way they get Fields or Wilson, but I could see them being higher on one than they other. If Mac is the one left standing at 8, I would be happy to trade down. Definitely not sold on him...

That makes sense. They don’t want the Jets high on Fields.

I keep hearing this as well. But why smokescreen when they already have the number 3 pick locked up knowing who is going one and two? It would be like the Jets smoke screening with Wilson.

If they are “all in” on Darnold that’s a dangerous game. If a better option is available always pursue it, especially at the QB position. I just don’t see a future 2nd and a couple late round picks as being fully committed to that player.

Oh you didn’t hear? We have to have a complete roster with no weaknesses before we dare take a rookie QB. I’ve been saying this the whole time. If we are high on a QB that falls to 8, I hope Darnold isn’t the reason we pass on one...

It’s the simple fact that we don’t have an established player at the most important position in sports. All I’m saying is if a player we like FALLS to us at 8, we should draft him. Not draft one just to do it. If we aren’t high on Mac or Lance and they are there at 8 than pass. If we are high on Fields and he actually makes it to 8 draft him. If our staff isn’t sold on him the grab a LT and I’ll be happy.

Yep we had a franchise QB and ran him into the ground. If Herbert fell to us it has been stated we would have drafted him. Drafting a QB early that drops to us doesn’t mean we have to avoid getting any kind of help at LT? Why do people think this? We should absolutely get one in the 2nd to compete with Scott and Erving. We have an anchor at RT which we are investing money in and picked up to G/Cs in Erving and Elf and resigned Miller. Our line was ranked 18 last year so slightly below average, but middle of the pack. Throw in a 2nd round LT (very deep class) with our FAs, Moton, and Paradis and it should be even better next year.

Don’t like the pick at 8... trade down and I’ll be happy with him.

Grab a LT in the second. This is a very deep draft for Offensive Linemen. We have Moton, Miller, Erving, Paradis, and 2nd Rounder to compete with Scott (and win hopefully). On a side note Herbert looked solid and had the worst line in the league.

Sewell looks like the safer pick of the two, but I’d be happy with either one!

It’s because it doesn’t fit their narrative. They don’t want us drafting a QB because our line sucks. The Chargers did that exact thing and it worked out fine. They will easily find decent linemen in the middle of this draft.

It wasn’t better than ours. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2020-offensive-line-rankings dead last.

Their line was horrible. Ranked dead last... https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2020-offensive-line-rankings Ours was better and they won more games because they found their QB.

Honestly I think I’d rather have Darnold than Mac straight up. The extra picks they are throwing away on Mac just makes it worse.

It’s a troll account.

Hey to also counter my point. Darnold was technically a first rounder, so maybe he has a higher chance of success?

I was thinking he was over a decade ago. Seems like he has been there forever!

9 years ago in 2012. Sweet. Although we do have the GM that may have been part of it.... Tom Brady was drafted way before the last decade.

Oh yeah it’s 100% up to our front office on how they feel about these prospects. The link I saw stated they “love” Fields and “like” Jones. My only point has been Darnold shouldn’t stop them from taking a QB they are high on IF they fall to us at 8. Agreed on the first round picks, but it’s amplified with QBs. Outside of Dak has their been one outside of the first that’s a solid starter in the past decade? I know there are always exceptions, but the odds are not in their favor.

Ahh I forgot TD was a safety at first. Yeah we can get a QB later, they just have a MUCH smaller chance of working out and we would be drafting one just to do it. The whole point is that IF a top one falls to 8, we shouldn’t hesitate. Verge had a great post about the success of QBs taken past round one in the past decade. It was heavily favored by First Rounders. I think Dak might be one of the rare ones that is a great QB taken after round one in that past decade.

Yeah makes too much sense right. I get people wanting a LT, but getting upset about the idea of taking a top QB that falls to us when we have other needs is odd to me. Every QB picked number one over all goes to a team with many needs...

They may have drafted players high, but it is still listed as the top need for the Chargers after they got Herbert. That’s how we beat them last year (constant pressure on Herbert). Baker had no protection his first two seasons. They just addressed it last offseason. Teams know you can’t compete consistently without a QB. Once you find your guy, it’s much easier to address needs. We just pumped money into RT (franchise tag) and signed several guards/centers. Little was a LT high 2nd pick he just busted. You can only draft one position in the first (usually). So you can’t just go by first round picks. We haven’t picked a Safety in a looong time or CB since Gamble in the first, TE? can’t think of one?

The Chargers have PLENTY of needs including offensive line. They were picking higher than we are this year with many holes. Guess what their biggest need is right now? Offensive line. Tackle and Guard. They had an opportunity to grab a top rated QB in the top 10 and used it on Herbert. He sat out at first and only played because that doctor punctured Taylor’s lung. QB is too important of a position to pass up. It’s much easier to find good linemen/any other position than a good QB. Browns got Baker first line later, Cardinals got Murray first line later, Bengals are doing the same with Burrow.