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Jeffers actually put up stats though.

The second coming of Taye Biddle.

Playmaking as defined by whom?

Sounds right for the moment and not an unreasonable list overall, though Sean Payton is wayyy too high and Zac Taylor too low.

Point being that he was not attracting more.attemtion, either by the QB, by game plan design, or otherwise. The offense didn't pay attention to him and as such defenses didn't either, which he turned into some downfield catches. Could he turn into more this season? Sure, but Juju (named by someone else in this thread) is an example of a complementary #2 receiver and TMJ is not there on the field yet.

TMJ has 3 targets or fewer in the vast majority of his games - he is a #3 with upside at best at the moment. Mingo is definitely not a #2 - he a rookie and could contribute something or could do nothing this year. Hopefully Young can help elevate everyone but Chark really needs to stay healthy this year.

To be fair to Cam, the shoulder injury was a fluky thing that could happen to anyone in the NFL. Had nothing to do with his play style outside of him giving 100% effort. Without that, Cam would likely still be in the league. Is what it is though and yeah, Bryce's career could be longer.

Weakness I see is that Woods is the closest thing we have to a true FS, but even then he's more of a hybrid type. Bell is a solid player but definitely an SS, and Chinn and Woods are already both SS types. IMO they really need a true FS type to round out that secondary, and it's been a historical problem for Carolina, where the safeties have always been average or worst. There's Minter, then Deon Grant, then maybe Charles Godfrey, then a bunch of one-year wonders, then nothing. That's a sorry positional history for a 30 yr old team.

I love stuff like this, and I think it's great to show kids/young athletes the grind side and just what it takes to be at that level. Not that everyone is an athlete but that the hard work is required to achieve the success they want. I also recognize that pumpkin patch Mahomes and family was at. It's a fun one.

Can he play the run too?

Please point me to a single place where I actually said folks shouldn't be excited at all/in any way, shape, or form, or that I'm unhappy. Hint: you won't find any. But don't let something like a little reality halt the make-believe narratives being projected.

For the millionth time +1 now, I have never said not to be excited. You can't/won't even keep the facts of my comments straight, something that often points to being unreasonable. I have nothing more to say here. Your argument is wrong/position is limited, you continue twisting my words, and you seem to be willfully keeping it that way.

You're the one/ones taking it as an insult but yes, it is entirely unrealistic to entirely discount tempered expectation because you're SO SURE that this team, or ANY NFL team for that matter, will automatically be in the playoffs given a rookie QB, let alone the brand new staff with question marks/unknowns, brand new receiving corps with question marks, and a division that is also full of question marks. That's just statistical reality or rookie QBs starting entire years and doesn't even account for the rest of the factors: Worth noting that Lamar Jackson and Dan Marino both aren't counted since they didn't start 10 games their rookie years, but that doesn't really change it. https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/gallery/best-seasons-by-rookie-qbs-in-nfl-history/ I've been a fan since '95 and a part of this board well before the 2008 crash - I get it. I say again for the millionth time, I think it's great to be excited. There appear to be good things happening, Bryce has a lot of promise, and I fully expect next year to be big. But these constant rejections of anything isn't just kowtowing to your point of view is soft. It's not my fault/the fault of others who see the big, reality hill facing the team and provide couter-point that folks in the starry-eyed echo chamber threads that fire up in here feel attacked. Some of these takes, such as "not making the playoffs this year is a complete failure", are just ridiculous, and this whole 'scouting Reich' thing was literally a 3-second comment with zero substance. Being as excited as you want to be doesn't change the reality and doesn't make folks who are more tempered wrong, negative, or miserable. Constantly asserting such things, however, can be similarly insufferable, and being a part of the echo "party" doesn't make you right/more right than any other opinion. Your party might be more fun and trolls (which I am not) more likely to go away if some folks didn't clutch so needlessly to the rose-colored glasses.

There's the player's side and the coach's side, woth the reality typically somewhere in the middle, but I can definitely believe that Rhule and many of his staff were poor teachers of what they did teach. Those guys were outclassed weekly by real NFL minds and even just moving to Wilks brought immediate and noticeable improvements.

Sorry man, but your double-standard here is brazen. You can tell us to get out of the way but we can't share our non-trolling tempered expectations in an open forum based on the current reality that a slight-of-frame NFL rookie QB hasn't even suited up in pads yet, a head coach whose record to date is dang near the literal definition of mediocre (41-40-1), a brand new coaching staff hasn't actually coached in anything but glorified walkthroughs, and a changed team hasn't done anything real yet? That it might come together but hasn't actually done so yet in any real way? That's just weak nonsense.

I'm not telling anyone not to be excited and totally understand that Young could deliver us out of QB purgatory. It's just over the top with the annointing and playoff planning (and other similar takes) in early June... dude is a rookie that will play like every other rookie at times and there are still large, notable question marks across the roster. It's a very reasonable opinion to have and, while I agree that legit trolls are obnoxious, it's silly to be mad at folks who bring a more reserved, non-trolling viewpoint.

About 'scouting' Reich, the specific topic of this thread? Yes, that's a single soundbyte. And come on, man... it's OTAs/camp. It's fine to be happy he's here but it's glorified walkthrough. Dude has literally zero actual NFL action yet and some folks are talking like he's already showing All-Pro on field. It's just way out of proportion to the reality. Positive, sure, but next to nothing in actual football scale.

Sporting KC, formerly the Wizards, and the Chiefs coexisted for over a decade in Arrowhead stadium, a harsher climate than in NC, while also hosting concerts and doing things like monster truck rallies. Point being that it can definitely be done.

Y'all sunshiners are quite sensitive. No one even said anything negative, just that this is a lot of conclusion-jumping based on a single soundbyte.

Matt Rhule, clown that he is, got Nebraska to move back to grass on at least their practice/outdoor fields (not clear if in the stadium as well) after having FieldTurf since 1999 and other artificials in the stadium even before that. To whatever degree of influence he has up there, he does have a somewhat unique perspective on it since BoA moved from grass to turf during his time here.

As a general comment, I'd be very surprised if there were many (I'm sure there are a handful we can all guess) potential #1 picks that hadn't looked into the teams that were likely to draft them. No way to prove that one way or another of course but it sure makes for a nice soundbyte.

I returned a kickoff in HS too.

Grown adult here and I still rock my car system. Hell, my subwoofer itself is about to turn 20 years old. However, while it does get loud and thumps nicely I puruse balanced audio and I've upgraded the other speakers as well to match. I also run EQ and have everything time-aligned for proper (as best you can get in a car) imaging and soundstage, not just trying to shake everything in the vicinity. I've also been teaching the HS kid next door and all of his buddies about how audio/car audio actually works; gain structures, tonal balance and how to use frequency sweeps to set EQ, speaker selection, how little wattage actually matters, etc. Just last night I helped a kid tune his truck system to gain clean headroom and reduce electrical strain while getting the volume he wants, and the HS neighbor kid's whole crew of friends now come to me with their car audio questions. I'm hearing reports that some of them are even taking their new knowledge and audio appreciation and starting to build themselves home audio systems... wonderful to see the hobby grow like that. Bottom line is that I love all forms of audio and want people to enjoy it responsibily, both for their own sake (hearing) and those around them. I don't listen nearly as loud as I used to and I always turn down at stoplights and when passing cemetaries but they'll pry my system out of my cold, dead hands.

Anyone attempting to compare Burns to Peppers is either delusional or never actually saw Julius play in his early years. There were many times Peppers was very clearly the best football player on a given field and he simply imposed his will on an opponent with no actual resistance. Tackling Plummer at the 1 and then the 99 yd interception return on the next play as one example... Stats or no stats, Burns is nowhere near that level right now - no 'hate', he just isn't. Also, Pep played his early years when the I/Pro formations were still offensive staples and power football was en vogue. Burns would be eaten alive in that setting but a young Pep would still fit right in in today's NFL and perhaps be even more dominant.