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Thielen wanted to go home. We did the right thing in letting him go. He was good to us, so we were good to him.

I just don't look at it like that. I look at the moment individually. How optimistic I am about the roster, staff, all that jazz. If you are talking about success over a large window of time, I absolutely get that argument. I just don't view it that way, because I don't think they are linked that way. More of an "any given Sunday" type, I guess.

I feel like with a guy like TMac, separation isn't as big of a deal. He is usually the bigger man, and can just use his body to box them out. I don't care how he gets the job done, as long as he does. Dude has some rare hands. Granted, I only watch Panthers ball, so I don't see a lot of elite players.

My memory isn't the greatest admittedly, but wasn't he overpaying dudes too? I feel like we were complaining about Hurney plenty when he was here.

I had a different perception because I was a lot younger, but the Chris Weinke days stick out to me as being the worst. I remember destroying a signed Chris Weinke ball I had as a kid with a buddy of mine and yelling Chris Weinke sucks Weinke.

I can't believe it is so bad in here you are yearnin' for a Hurnin'.

XL certainly isn't looking good, but TMac was exciting. It's his FIRST game. I feel y'all are being way too harsh right now.

I have been a fan a long time. I know how bad we can be. I feel like this wasn't even that bad. Y'all got me thinkin' I am delusional.

Probably a rule worthy of adopting. This is rough.

Maybe in the first round. I don't think we can build a roster around 1 solid pick a year. He had his fair share of issues outside of the first.

I feel like I have amnesia. I don't remember it being THIS bad. We knew this was possible. We talked about it being sink or sim for Bryce. Now that he isn't struggling, the sky is falling? There weren't many Panthers today who DIDN'T struggle.

It is unbelievable to me how negative this place is right now. Might be time to take a vacation.

There is a reason Clowney has been on so many teams.

Says the dude dressed as an actual clown. I am talking the view of the player's potential at draft. Dan can't see the future. Go be negative somewhere else. The discussion was about his drafting ability, and I was trying to illustrate the point that you can't judge his picks with hindsight.

People aren't excited about guys like Ransom and Jimmy Horn Jr? Etienne already looks solid to me too. I feel like previous drafts weren't getting this type of review. For example, Zavala was getting hate year 1 if I recall correctly. We seem more optimistic about Dan's picks from what I have seen at least.

The problem is, you view this in hindsight. I remember people being pretty stoked about this year's draft. Dan can't see the future. The draft is a roll of the dice. I think his picks have been more hit than miss so far. I can't remember the last time we were excited about UDFA's like this either. Norwell maybe? That's a long time.

The consistent high snaps were definitely odd. That is not on Bryce.

I feel like the fan base is being overly critical right now because of how poorly we played. People were touting Dan's ability to find gems recently. XL isn't working out, but TMac and Coker looking good. He also dealt Thielen for more than a lot of people expected given the circumstances, and utilized an extra roster spot by having a side deal worked with Refrow apparently. He has done better than I expected given he was the right hand of the last regime and had that failing pizza place lol

TMac is very exciting. Crazy to think that was his first game. He has some insane hands.

I tried to think back and find a pick I was wrong on. Best I could come up with was I was high on Ereck Flowers in 2015. I wanted Dalvin Cook as our RB choice in 2017, but in my defense, I wasn't using a first on him. CMC ended up being on of my favorite players ever and I regret not looking more his way in the draft process.

You could be right. I am just not ready to give up on Bryce given the circumstances. I was hoping we would pickup someone with more potential to be QB3. Hooker wasn't on my list, but I will root for him just like I would anyone else wearing a Panther's jersey.

I don't think there is one brother. Most of my Panthers chat is with a buddy of mine who doesn't post here. I don't care if you believe me. I only watch Panthers ball, so I don't even know how he is doing. I just assume he is doing better than Young. Not like I haven't been wrong about a pick before.

His grandfather said that and he responded saying he hasn't ruled it out.

Were you impressed with our play calling today? I think there is plenty of blame to spread around. Only guys I wouldn't blame right off the top of my head are Chuba, Fitz, and TMac.

I have no reason to lie about it. Believe whatever you want. I don't think he is doing great either. Only reason I brought it up was to dispel the idea I am a Bryce hugger. I absolutely hated it when Teddy was here, but I still supported him, because he was the guy. I am a Panthers fan. It is in my best interest for whoever is in the driver's seat to win.