45catfan

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That's my main problem, at #8 that's a future HOF or perennial All-Pro spot. If you aren't 100% sure that player is a Day1 starter or might be scheme adverse, stay away from that player that high in the draft. I just know our track record with 'tweeners and undersized EDGE guys. Piss poor would best describe that track record.

For the record, I DON'T dislike Walker, I just think #8 is too high for him. If we move back to the mid-teens and still can get him...fine. I would have no problem with that.

Unless he's fibbing, later on Simms said he's heard while "some people love Walker, others don't even have him as a first rounder".

Overrated, huh? Yup, he's a lock to be a Panther. We LOVE us overrated players.

I'm now seeing some mocks that has us trading UP to #4 if Carter somehow falls to that spot. That would require our 2nd and one of our 4ths.

The only team that may take Walker before us is the Jags. I REALLY hope so because that means Graham likely falls to us. Taking Walker over Graham makes no sense to me. The Raiders and Jets are going offense.

I realize we are going for a mediocre EDGE player, but I don't have to like it. I mean it's par for the course, I'm routinely disappointed in our drafts year after year. It would be different if I thought our drafts sucked and we were winning Super Bowls, or crap, even sniffing the playoffs. I think I have room to gripe when I think our drafts sucks and our team actually does suck.

Not giving up on him, he's just a TE2.

Which is crazy because they are like a security blanket for QBs. To be fair throwing to Ian Thomas is not very inspiring or reliable.

50/50 the Jets are taking Warren. It might be a moot point.

How long have you followed this team? Very curious.

I never said to not draft an EDGE player, but we shouldn't pigeon-hole ourselves to that one position either just because we need one. However, that's what we have done in round 1 since Hurney left and likely will do again. BPA is a farce with this team--fugg'n lip service.

I know; system-smystem; mediocrity is our hallmark, as we are the Carolina Panthers. Bye, bye Bryce! I shouldn't be too upset.

Sorry, but his junior year is what most TEs dream of in college. His Freshman year Pat Freiermuth was there, he wasn't seeing the field. So his only "non-productive" year was his Soph. year when he was still behind Brenton Strange who was drafted in round 2 in the 2023 draft. Warren is legit. I'll take a Swiss Army knife offensive player over a 8-10 sack per season EDGE guy every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Ever been to a garage sale? One person wants to move off something and someone else wants to purchase as long as the terms are agreeable for both parties. We are not in the RB, QB or OT market. Some other teams might be. If a team wants to move up to get one of those positions and we can still get a target guy where we would be sliding back to and the compensation is agree upon, why not?

So they built their offense around a TE? Think about that, a TIGHT END. Also, if he's the key for defenses, don't you think they were able to successfully neutralize him at times? He didn't put up these elite numbers in the MAC, Mountain West or even the ACC, rather he did this in the BIg Ten, which arguably is the best conference now...even over the SEC.

^This. However, if some team feels froggy enough and nobody at the top of our board falls, let them jump.

McShay says there are only two can't miss prospects in this draft, Carter and Hunter and we aren't getting either of them. Don't trade down for the sake of it, but if it makes sense, why not?

If the Raiders somehow pass on Jeanty, the Cowboys will be all too happy to come up to #8. We get their second rounder this year.

These EDGE guys all and I do mean ALL, have holes in their games. The drop off from Carter to the next cluster of EDGE guys is fairly steep. If we have three EDGE guys ranked close together and move down several spots, we are nearly guaranteed to get at least one of them.

It only makes sense. After the elite blue-chip guys (outside of Warren will all be gone), the next 10 or so guys are not dissimilar enough to ignore trade down offers.

NFL dot com has Warren ranked as the 4th best prospect on behind Jeanty, Carter and Hunter. Sorry guys, it's easier to find an above average EDGE guy than an elite TE. These EDGE guys are all over the place depending on which site you look at who is the better prospect. In other words, if the experts don't have a consensus, or even close to it, who is EDGE2 behind Carter, then it's a crap shoot. Warren is the consensus TE1, although Loveland is ranked high too. I've seen Warren comped to Gronk and Loveland to Kelce. Gronk was a complete TE and Kelce is definitely more geared to the passing attack. I know we are 99.99% gong defense, I just think we may be forcing it depending on how the board falls. If Warren is there, the top defender should not be placed above him assuming Graham is gone simply because the emphasis of the draft is to retool the defense. Also, re-upping a TE on a second deal versus an EDGE guy as first round draftees down the road will be much more cap friendly.

Maybe this is a bargaining chip: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/04/13/nfl-trade-rumors-steelers-tj-watt-panthers/83068193007/ #21, Watt and next year's 2nd? Would you do it?

The value chart I looked at has has the value difference at 600 points between our first round selections. That value unto itself is pick #31 in the first round. The Steelers do not have a 2nd rounder this year and would have to give us their 3rd rounder valued at 175 points, which means we would get their 2nd rounder next year. So the Steelers would only have a 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th this year if that trade occurred. That's a LOT to give up on Sanders who they seem to be simply lukewarm on.