Proudiddy

I didnt expect pros to go out there and half ass it. Nor did I expect Rhule to pull a Pederson, but you can affect outcomes without expecting less of your roster. And as I said elsewhere, if we start Grier there and he wins it, that is a lot more palatable than what happened. And again, I'm not panicking or sounding the alarms that due to it there is impending doom. I simply said the win was more costly than it was beneficial, and our division rivals could benefit more from it. I also said this is where Rhule has to prove he is the coach he contends he is. No panic. Just an observation. And look, I didnt mind the pacifier insult. I let it slide. But you assuming I'm not potty trained because of my pacifier use is just outright disrespectful.

I never said it was something you said lol. Nor am I panicking. Although you seem a bit anxious lol. I just said that's what huddlers have said for years and the chickens have yet to come home to roost. And if we took Mac Jones in the Top 10, we have bigger problems than the Saints moving ahead of us.

Trading to bring Teddy Bridgewater back.

I agree for the most part. Who knows? We could pick a generational player in the 3rd or 4th round. Maybe 6th. Which is why I say Rhule better be the coach he contends he is... because what it did cost us was leverage potential assets. That's all I'm saying. This isn't panic, this isn't whining... I was simply pointing out how costly that win was. That's all.

Lol, okay. Thanks for the discussion. Enjoy the Falcons getting another franchise QB and the Saints stealing a franchise tackle from us because 5 wins compared to 4 separates the badasses from the pussies apparently. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go find my pacifier.

Scrub nuts? Nice. An alternative would've been starting Grier. If he wins, that game is a lot more palatable and tolerable. Going there with a proven loser who just happened to avoid just enough of his usual horrible mistakes to win a game that only hurt us cost us far more than we gained.

No it wasn't recency bias... I dont think we were mathematically eliminated against the Lions, and there was hope because PJ looked better. The Washington win was absolutely pointless all the way around. It was the latest win in the season where the outcome of the season as already cemented. I'm not sure where you're trying to go with this argument? If you want to argue we shoundt have beat the Lions instead of Washington, have at it. But, the season was over when we played Washington, against our former coach, and Rhule, as much as I like him so far, trotted Bridgewater out there who was hot garbage but just good enough to beat our former mediocre coach and his unprepared football team.

Yes, because we still were in contention at that point and Teddy hadn't shown how horribly inept he was at that point. At Washington, the season was over, qe were out of contention, most everyone was already over Teddy and ready to move on, and we literally had nothing to gain by winning that.

I doubt Jimmy G nets a first rounder at this point.

Oops, well, my board for us remains the same... but I definitely think Atlanta is going Lance or Fields and that will thoroughly piss me off.

While I'd love to get him, I could stomach 3 first rounders for Watson pre-legal issues because of his age. I guarantee the Packers aren't even listening to any offers, let alone any with less than 3 first round picks. No way I'd give that much up for a guy in his mid-30s who seems to be growing further and further away from football.

But he will. Jump pass incoming.

I wouldn't be mad at Pitts, but I have grown to think CB is a bigger priority. My personal, current board is 1) Fields/Lance 2) Sewell 3) Horn/Surtain with the preference being Horn. I saw Verge's blurb about us being interested in Farley after Horn, and made no mention of Surtain, but Farley's back issues scare the hell out of me.

He will be a TE in name only. No doubt, Urban will find ways to use him in various roles.

I disagree. I dont think Payton needs a first round QB, nor does he want one. They looked pretty effing good with a bucktoothed, super-powered The Golden Calf of Bristol despite his limitations. They are stockpiling talent and they're draft record over the last few years should be the envy of the league. So whatever they're gonna do, it's gonna have more of a negative effect on us than it will them.

And yet, we've been sitting back writhing and sulking around in our inter-divisional hate for them saying the same thing for years now - "oh, that's gonna come back to bite them," "no way they can keep signing people," "cap is gonna be unmanageable pretty soon..." guess what? None of those things happened, yet. Theyve signed all the guys and traded for all the guys they wanted and made it through the entirety of Brees' tenure there without ever having to have a massive purge or reset. Moving up to get ahead of us means absolutely nothing to Payton. He does whatever it takes to improve his team and if he can screw us in the process, that gives him that much more incentive... he loves it.

That's why. We lose to Washington, and none of this is a concern. Now it is. And Payton would cut his own nose off to spite us, and he does so at every possible turn. He seriously hates us.

Whatever they do, it's gonna screw us. With them taking whoever they get, and the Falcons taking Lance that win against Washington really fuged us. No matter what we get at 8, both of them got better and did so ahead of us. This will really be the test of how good of a coach Rhule is.

I really hate the Falcons are getting Lance. I hate it.

But not enough to make him the pick?

Thanks as always, Verge! You're the best. So you don't think there is actually any legitimate interest in Fields from us?

Yeah, you're right... I'm thinking the organization hires the radio guys, bc i know they are the ones that announce that directly, so that may be where my confusion was. Also would explain why, as you mentioned, that when the TV network forced Martin out, the team brought him back as the radio guy. Makes sense. Either way, I imagine it makes sense for the network to try to keep him (and keep him with the Hornets) bc of both his and the team's trajectory, and it constantly keeps their name in the public conscience.

You sure about that? I'm pretty sure the team does have say in it. I know the network pays them, but I thought they were contracted out. I'm pretty sure if they had Billy Bob and Jimbo up there announcing our games, the organization would ensure that wouldn't last very long. I mean, I don't know all the ins and outs of the deals, but the organization has to have some influence... they've had to. I mean, it's probably why we've had more play by play guys since we have had a franchise back than other franchises have had in 40 years.

I think EC and MJ meet in the middle and keep EC here long-term. I see EC as a loyal guy so he wouldn't gouge MJ for too much l, but he will definitely be getting a significant raise. And I see MJ seeing the value in having possibly the most renowned play-by-play guy currently in the league, attached to a young, up-and-coming core with Melo, Terry, and Miles as they grow into a contender. It makes sense for both sides to stay together... also, if I'm not mistaken, whatever these local deals are, I don't think they keep play-by-play guys from working with other networks when it comes to the playoffs (Eagle comes to mind, as well as Stephanie Ready and our former guy Devlin, as they all worked the playoffs for TNT while they were with us), so I fully expect EC to cash in on that while still staying on with us for the future.

Ok, so draft day... and as I expected, I have a clearer idea of how my board breaks down. I have it Fields/Lance, Sewell, then Horn/Surtain. I have a feeling Fields, Lance, and Sewell will be gone. I think we trade back a few spots and still take Horn or Surtain, and I give Horn a slight edge as my preference.