Jared Patterson

Not saying we should tank. I am saying we should force Rhule to let it play out w the QB he traded a fortune to instead of trading more assets for what his 5th try at QB? And if you have the right leadership, gm and coach in place you should be able to draft the right guy! Its also a pretty darn loaded class next year. I am hoping Corral can develop so we don't necessarily have to take one.

Can you explain why other teams weren't interested instead of sending the same message? I guess you are saying we are the only ones to stoop to that level, which I completely agree w you in that case. The real reason (which I think you know) is out of desperation by a coach to save his job....

But why were we the only suitors? What makes us different from the rest of the teams in the league? Are you saying we like sub par QB play/injured QBs and bad locker room guys? Again, why just us? You aren't explaining why other teams weren't interested you just said" it left the Panthers."Whats the difference between us and the rest of the league? I don't understand what you are trying to get across.

Still TBD about Jets and Trevor is a beast that was Urban Myer and a worse owner than ours fault. Also imo the Jags have the worst GM in the NFL

No it doesn't at all....

Agreed. Not true. Was just a rumor. Why was Seattle not interested this year then? Ian Rap immediately shot down the Josina report and she was silent after so don't give me that and you heard nothing about any kind of offer from them.

Why wasnt Atlanta interested?

Why were we the only suitors if he is so good? They turned down his request at first b/c he was literally the only QB on the roster on a rookie deal. They didn't even start to negotiate a long term deal and would've drafted a QB if they didn't get Watson or would've got Jimmy G or tried to trade for another QB. Watson wasnt the only QB they were interested in. They were desperate to move on.

My biggest fear is Baker will have his best season ever... we go 8-9 9-8 and are stuck in no mans land the following year and the Falcons get CJ Stroud/Bryce Young, etc why we aren't in a position to take a QB and don't have one on the roster. Im holding out hope for Corral, but he is a third round pick. Love his release and mindset, but he struggles with decision making. He has some potential though.

And yes, I believe Baker is slightly better than Darnold (def not in camp so far though) I just cant believe our franchise has gotten this low....

So you're blaming the oline and not Baker? Then why did they have to pay to ship Baker away and give a predator who will be suspended for a year the most guaranteed money of all time? They were healthy over half the season... Baker blamed the Oline and the coaching staff, front office and players were like uhhhhh you are a fool ship him out of here and we will pay a team to do it. Why were we the only team interested in Baker? Answer any of those questions, I dare you. End of argument right here.

So basically the Browns had the best Oline and gave up the 6th most sacks??? You are just like Baker.... blame the Oline (like he did) and have a team have to pay to get rid of you and go after a predator b/c they are that desperate to get rid of you.... But its the olines fault right?

I would say it was pretty darn good if not great. When they were healthy it was the best in the entire league.

Yes, they had some injuries on the oline that hurt them a bit, but "pressure" can mean and be caused by several different things including the QB/play calling, etc. The entire back up Browns Oline was better than ours last year.

No it doesn't lol and idc what article or stats say that that is completely false and fake news. I think Baker is better than Darnold (barely), but he is no where near a top 5 QB like you think and I don't think anyone on the planet would say Darnold had a better line than Baker. Thats a wild statement.

And why was that when they were graded out best Oline in the league and ours second to last after Miami?

Yes, held on to the ball way too long. Focused too much on his first read and was slow to get to his second. Even our improved oline would not have a single guy starting for his Browns Oline. Maybe, Moton over Conklin. Literally, was graded out the best Oline in the NFL and on paper as well. Best pass blocking RB as well.

Baker caused the sacks and blamed his best OLINE in the league.... Part of the reason they wanted him out so bad.

WHY IS EFLIEN ON THIS TEAM. ITS SOUNDING LIKE RHULES GOING TO TRY TO START THIS MAN SOMEHOW.... PROBABLY MOVE BOZEMAN TO LG. SERIOUSLY, RHULE HAS A CREEPY FETIS FOR THIS MAN.

Some Matt Rhule crap. Dude is not better than a high school WR at best.

Yea, that's a high school way of thinking and teaching of young kids.... Definitely should not matter in the freaking NFL.

As an Ole Miss alumni, I am sure you watched a lot of Corral... What is your honest opinion of him? Do you believe we will need to draft a QB next year or can he be a franchise guy?

That dudes lost his mine lol.

HAHAHAAHHAHAHAH WHAT???? Baker sucks buddy....... Like really sucks....Top 10? Why were we the only team that was interested in trading for him (REPORTED)? Why did the Browns have to pay us to take him???? Top 10? You are the one that needs an education. I think Baker is around the 30th ranked QB in the NFL at best and definitely not a franchise QB. Geez man, I want whatever you are on. HAAHHAHAHAHALOLOLOLOL

Look at what we paid those two bozos.... Thats why we would never be able to trade them. If someone traded for one of them I would be insanely happy for a 2030 7th just to get them off this team. Can we save money by cutting them this year? I have no clue why Eflein re-structured... No idea why Rhule has such a fetish for a guy who was cut by Bengals and Jets and was left/shouldnt be in the league.