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Nah, Stroud has played with multiple first round WRs. Like Burrow during that LSU year, all he's done is hit the open guy. You can't really knock him or ask more of him because he operates within the confines of the system - he just happened to be surrounded by tons of talent. What's going to sell them on Stroud's ceiling is how he does in chalkboard sessions and the feedback they get from the background checks. He checks all the physical boxes (you'd like a stronger arm, but it's good enough), so it's whether he's got the right mental make-up. Is he a driven competitor? Can he dissect his own plays and tell you what he was thinking when he threw that pass? Same goes for Richardson I feel - although you're projecting more cos you're relying on your coaches being able to improve his mechanics (and no he doesn't have to be as accurate as Stroud to succeed in the NFL).

I found it interesting that Ryan Leaf had Stroud and Young as first rounders with Richardson and Levis as toolsy second rounders that you're doing no favours to if you draft them in the first.

You'd have to pay me a lot to leave the Bengals tbh. I'd want one of the best QBs in the league throwing me the ball if I was a skill position player.

I don't know about our cap, but it would do wonders for my mental health.

He goes on there every Tuesday during the regular season.

Why is it weird? He was too small / weak to play as a G. As a C that double teamed the DT though I thought he was good.

PJ Walker is terrible, he can't be here next year.

There's no farm left to trade I'm afraid.

You're hoping. JT even says he doesn't see Stroud demonstrating the playmaking ability you look for. He's shown he can do it, but it doesn't come naturally to him like it does Young.

You can't make them do it.

Again, he's dropped the AR15 nickname.

If you want to know how bad this WR market is - not a single one has signed in FA on day 1 with all these mammoth deals flying around.

He definitely will have been consulted for a character reference.

He's an Orange County boy, no?

Having read all their fans wishing us an awful season next year I'm fully on board with my 'fug the Bears' stance.

They're not intentionally tanking, they just have nothing at QB. We've put ourselves in the same situation, whilst also floating rumours that we'd happily trade Corral.

He's Irish, not Scottish.

Now we've got the worst WR room in the NFL.

Too late - you need to get on it at 11 like Messi did.

How do you know he doesn't have elite level processing? Everything I've seen / read suggests he's been developing his processing at the rate you'd expect a first year starter to do, looking much better as the season went on. Who does have elite processing in this Draft? Are you sure Stroud isn't simply a product of a system? Does Young not leave throws on the field? With regards to talent, Richardson is the tallest, heaviest, fastest QB with the best arm (in terms of how strength, if not accuracy) of the leading QB group.

If the season started tomorrow, sure, but what about who's better 5 years from now?

I don't think anyone can bitch about whoever we take considering 95% of you have lauded the trade up to get 'their' guy.

I mean Burrow was a couple of years older, so take that with a grain of salt, but his stats blew Stroud's out of the water. 5,671 yards, 60 TDs, 6 INTs. vs 3,688 yards, 41 TDs, 6 INTs.

No more trading away picks, please.

If Young checked in at 6' at the Combine he'd be the #1 overall pick without question. Unfortunately for Bryce, he didn't.