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It has been a complete roster turn over and a coaching staff with no experience in under 2 seasons. We have much less holes overall in the roster than we had before. Our holes are just glaring and clear now. Which isnt really a bad thing. The coaching staff has definitely made lots of mistakes but that's part of getting that experience and learning to coach at this level. He may not be the answer at head coach in the long run but getting rid of him in under 2 whole seasons in the situations I mentioned previously is a completely knee jerk reaction.

I really dont think he will be fired this season.

Couldnt it be both though? Hes mad because hes a Rhule fan and some are making it a bigger thing because they want Rhule gone. Most answers are somewhere in the middle.

He makes a good point though. It doesnt happen often and it appears when it does happen literally moments before the game most teams appear to not be prepared.

You can only play the hand you're dealt.

The only thing I will say is most of those teams did that by mortgaging their future and forcing a very small winning window. Not all of them, for example the Bengals. If you want to make a team that has a chance to win for a long time it usually takes more time.

I get that but you could say that about anyone really. It's no players fault nesscesarily if a team signs them and they are doing their best, and I have no doubt Cam is putting in everything hes got. How many Darnold is awful threads were there after every single loss though? Was it Darnolds fault he was put in the same bad situation or that he was trying hard and it just wasnt good enough because he makes bone headed decisions trying to make things happen?

I think they could do it in 2 more seasons but it would take a lot of luck and they would have to let some good players walk to use cap to sign oline.

I definitely agree with that. I feel like the roster has a little bit fewer holes than it did last season but the holes it does have are glaring and some of the most important pieces.

I'm blaming everyone. That's the thing. So many people on here want to blame everyone but Cam... I dont think this loss was on Cam, but if you critique anything about Cam on here then the poo starts flying.

I agree with that. The only thing is everyone is a first time head coach. They all make mistakes while gaining that experience. The question is do they learn from it. We won't really have any idea on that until the offseason.

It is a rebuilding team though. They werent really expected to be a really good team this year until they went 3-0.

We beat the cardinals pretty handily as well.

I dont disagree with you there nesscesarily but regardless of who takes the blame that is kind of semantics really. It's good to blame someone you want to blame. Everyone is pissed off and frustrated with how this season has went and its always going to be easier to paint the blame on one clear target when there is blame all over the place to be had.

So let me get this straight. Everyone who was flipping out when it happened screaming why didnt Rhule call a run play there, he screwed Cam over etc, now finds out that Rhule did call a run play and Cam optioned out of it and that play is still on Rhule. Huddles gonna huddle

He got a decent amount of snaps the first half of the season. They didnt go well. We are coming to the point in the season where none of that matters and they need to just play all the young guys. I will give you that.

I think there are a lot more huddlers than you realize who think he should be qb next season.

He doesnt normally call the offense though. That's not something many head coaches are responsible for. Not unheard of but not commonplace.

Or he could have just ran it for a yard like the main play was called.

Well we were 3-0 so there was no point then. He had 4 tds in the week 4 loss and then after that he definitely said multiple times they needed more from the QB and they couldnt win with qb play like that. This is looking for drama for dramas sake. Everyone wants to blame Rhule for everything (and he definitely deserves some of it) and Cam is a hometown hero and panthers darling. No matter what anyone says or who's feelings get hurt hes still not the future at the position. Hes the best panthers qb of all time but hes not that on the field now.

Rhule 100% did call him out too. Neither are the answer at qb of the future though so the point is kind of irrelevant.

Holding on to the ball too long with a bad oline, the Bill's sending a lot of CB blitzes and Cam not being as mobile as he used to is a totally different thing than young Cam holding on to the ball too long. It's the same as his throwing late. He used to have the lazer arm to make up for it and now sometimes his shoulder cant quite do it the same so late throws are a bigger problem than they used to be when he could make up for it. All young Cam's biggest strengths were strengths that dont traditionally age well and that's unfortunate.

He did throw Sam under the bus though. In the end none of the qbs on the roster are the long term solution, but if you lump Cam in that generalized statement then half of the huddle flips out. Our current situation is horrible for the qb. Any qb. They have all looked bad for lots of reasons. I still dont think the answer is on the roster.

I'm not sure? I'm not sure what that has to do with this situation either?

Yea I'm not really posting it to blame Cam but Rhule was getting flamed on here when that happened and then everyone was freaking out when Rhule was angry with him on the sidelines. This just shines a little light on that one specific situation that was definitely getting a lot of flack.