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My brothers in Christ, we have had search engines since the 1990s. BEHOLD, THE ANSWER YOU SEEK tldr; looks like he might still be waiting but did have a procedure on his foot (for those that don't recall, he had hurt his foot in training camp).

Stats Sports-Reference Official NCAA site Prospect Rankings/Scouting Reports Dane Brugler (The Athletic) Official NFL site PFF TheDraftNetwork CBS (just rankings) Mock Drafts SO MANY NO SERIOUSLY THEY'RE FRIGGIN EVERYWHERE HOLY poo I also enjoy Brett Kollman and EJ Snyder's content. NFLStockExchange and TheFranchiseGuy have been good watches as well. The NFL Draft subreddit is... a thing. Can sometimes find some interesting perspectives on players that you might not have been open to previously.

Wouldn't surprise me tbh. With JB being more than likely done for the upcoming season and dealing with his second ACL tear in that knee, the team can't just assume that he's going to be available. Taking a late round flier on a power guy and letting him get the occasional touch behind Chuba/Miles will help with keeping them healthy so that in 2026 the team can walk into the season with a three-headed monster in the backfield.

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Jonathan Stewart's response:

Fortunately, Malaki Starks is far and away the best safety in the draft and if we're talking value, the team only has a UDFA (Richardson) under contract going forward. He's also a better prospect than Kyle Hamilton was (imo) who went #14. Minkah Fitzpatrick went at #11 a couple of seasons prior to that.

Looks like they forgot 2008 - 2011 entirely. Over on defense there was Charles Johnson, pre-assault charges Greg Hardy, Jon Beason, Dan Connor, Chris Gamble, Thomas Davis, and Captain Munnerlyn. All were on both the 2011 + 2012 rosters. Same with Gross/Wharton/Kalil on the OL, Smitty/LaFell at WR, and Double Trouble at RB. Not to mention there was a lot of the same talent from the 12-4 2008 season on that roster. Hard to call that a locker room full of losers, guys that don't want to win, guys that didn't want to prepare... especially when John Fox's lame duck season and CBA lockouts followed shortly after. That 2-14 team lost TD, Connor, Otah, DWill, and Wharton all two season ending injuries. Matt Moore also went down which is what forced Clausen + Pike to start (before Keith Null and Brian St Pierre limped the team to the finish line). Moore had ended 2009 4-1 with an 8:1 TD:INT ratio after Jake broke his finger. It's insane to me that Cam would've even suggested that his teammates were losers, especially given how much former teammates have talked him up. It was very much a talking head hot take but if it's what he truly believes... ooh wee mayne.

51. Jordan Burch, EDGE, Oregon 52. Jona Savaiinaea, OL, Arizona 53. Nic Scourton, EDGE, Texas A&M 54. Maxwell Hairston, CB, Kentucky 55. Benjamin Morrison, CB, Notre Dame 56. Shemar Turner, DT, Texas A&M 57. Jaxson Dart, QB, Ole Miss 58. Jalen Royals, WR, Utah State 59. Tyler Shough, QB, Louisville 60. TJ Sanders, DT, South Carolina 61. Jalen Milroe, QB, Alabama 62. Jordan James, RB, Oregon 63. Cameron Williams, OT, Texas 64. Gunnar Helm, TE, Texas 65. Josaiah Stewart, EDGE, Michigan 66. Marcus Mbow, G, Purdue 67. Darius Alexander, DT, Toledo 68. Tre Harris, WR, Ole Miss 69. Tate Ratledge, G, Georgia 70. Quinshon Judkins, RB, Ohio State 71. Ashton Gillotte, EDGE, Louisville 72. Jaylin Noel, WR, Iowa State 73. Jordan Phillips, DT, Maryland 74. Jack Bech, WR, TCU 75. Princely Umanmielen, EDGE, Ole Miss 76. Deone Walker, DT, Kentucky 77. Quincy Riley, CB, Louisville 78. Omarr Norman-Lott, DT, Tennessee 79. Kevin Winston Jr, S, Penn State 80. Dylan Sampson, RB, Tennessee 81. Ozzy Trapilo, OT, Boston College 82. Harold Fannin Jr, TE, Bowling Green 83. Jared Wilson, C, Georgia 84. Will Howard, QB, Ohio State 85. Danny Stutsman, LB, Oklahoma 86. Jacob Parrish, CB, Kansas State 87. Kyle Kennard, EDGE, South Carolina 88. Joshua Farmer, DT, Florida State 89. Tez Johnson, WR, Oregon 90. Elic Ayomanor, WR, Stanford 91. Nohl Williams, CB, California 92. Oluwafemi Oladejo, EDGE, UCLA 93. Trey Amos, CB, Ole Miss 94. Isaiah Bond, WR, Texas 95. RJ Harvey, RB, UCF 96. Cobee Bryant, CB, Kansas 97. Andrew Mukuba, S, Texas 98. Terrace Ferguson, TE, Oregon 99. Darien Porter, CB, Iowa State 100. Chris Paul Jr, LB, Ole Miss

oops, missed that it was top 100 now. Updating with 51 - 100

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6109189/2025/02/11/nfl-draft-2025-prospect-rankings-top-100/ Brugler's updated top 50... 1. Travis Hunter, CB/WR, Colorado 2. Abdul Carter, EDGE, Penn State 3. Jalon Walker, EDGE/LB, Georgia 4. Mason Graham, DT, Michigan 5. Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise State 6. Will Campbell, OT, LSU 7. Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona 8. Armand Membou, OT, Missouri 9. Shemar Stewart, EDGE, Texas A&M 10. Tyler Warren, TE, Penn State 11. Colston Loveland, TE, Michigan 12. Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall 13. Will Johnson, CB, Michigan 14. Malaki Starks, S, Georgia 15. Cam Ward, QB, Miami 16. Mykel Williams, EDGE, Georgia 17. Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio State 18. Tyler Booker, G, Alabama 19. Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon 20. Luther Burden III, WR, Missouri 21. James Pearce Jr, EDGE, Tennessee 22. Kelvin Banks Jr, OT, Texas 23. Jihad Campbell, LB, Alabama 24. Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State 25. Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado 26. Kenneth Grant, DT, Michigan 27. Matthew Golden, WR, Texas 28. Nick Emmanwor, S, South Carolina 29. Walter Nolen, DT, Ole Miss 30. Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, Boston College 31. Josh Conerly Jr, OT, ORegon 32. Shavon Revel Jr, CB, East Carolina 33. Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State 34. Donovan Jackson, OL, Ohio State 35. Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa 36. Omarion Hampton, RB, UNC 37. Mason Taylor, TE, LSU 38. Grey Zabel, OL, North Dakota State 39. Elijah Arroyo, TE, Miami 40. Jahdae Barron, CB, Texas 41. JT Tuimoloau, EDGE, Ohio State 42. Azareye'h Thomas, CB, Florida State 43. Carson Schwesinger, LB, UCLA 44. Jack Sawyer, EDGE, Ohio State 45. Landon Jackson, EDGE, Arkansas 46. Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame 47. Alfred Collins, DT, Texas 48. Jayden Higgins, WR, Iowa State 49. TreVeyon Henderson, RB, Ohio State 50. Aireontae Ersery, OT, Minnesota

Still made the SB and Bryce still played the Iggles close soooo not sure what kind of dub you think you've gotten yourself At least the halftime show was fun. Was better than the game.

The thing that frustrated me the most (going strictly off of his 2024 tape) was seeing how there was more than a few plays where the entire DL would be making contact but Williams was still in his stance. I understand that he had an injury that would impact his burst off of the snap, but we're talking he hasn't moved and other guys are pushing the OL back... That was something that just kept popping up. There's a part of me that wants to go back and look at how he looked last season. He's got the right measurables, but I expected a lot more production out of him. Considering the injuries, he did what he was supposed to do... but seeing more than a few plays where he's still got his hand in the dirt while his teammates are attacking linemen really put a pause in me.

pre-combine EDGE rankings Abdul Carter (Penn State) James Pearce Jr (Tennessee) Mike Green (Marshall) Nic Scourton (Texas A&M) Donovan Ezeiruaku (Boston College) JT Tuimoloau (Ohio State) Kyle Kennard (South Carolina) Princely Umanmielen (Ole Miss) Mykel Williams (Georgia) Shemar Stewart (Texas A&M) Jack Sawyer (Ohio State) Antwaun Powell-Ryland (Virginia Tech) Bradyn Swinson (LSU) Landon Jackson (Arkansas) Jared Ivey (Ole Miss) Ashton Gillotte (Louisville) Jordan Burch (Oregon) Ahmed Hassenein (Boise State) Josaiah Stewart (Michigan) David Walker (Central Arkansas) Tyler Baron (Miami) Fadil Diggs (Syracuse) Kaimon Rucker (UNC) Sai'vion Jones (LSU) JJ Weaver (Kentucky) Que Robinson (Alabama)

You spent several paragraphs saying that you don't care about the combine because you don't think any of it translates and you trust the same eyes that tell you Bryce is barely serviceable... You could've just said that you're going to be glazing T-Mac until the draft.

You ask how is he a bigger, faster, and stronger prospect but when told we have to wait for definitive measurements your response is that those measurements that you're requesting are meaningless? I understand that you're passionate about drafting the kid, but willfully rejecting additional data points that answer your question(s) while engaging in strawman fallacies does not exactly show that you're willing to have a rational discussion about him... especially given as to how you're also insisting that Bryce is a "barely serviceable QB" that was the "biggest bust in draft history" (your words exactly). It's giving the impression that you're more interested in being right than you are learning/sharing/discussing info.

......you good? This is a weird response to somebody trying to have a good faith convo about the kid as a prospect, especially someone that's mentioned being supportive of drafting him.

To be fair, we haven't seen T-Mac's combine measurables yet. They're going to be comparing him to Evans all day, especially since he went at #7 and wasn't considered the best WR in his class. Hunter is currently considered WR1 and Sammy Watkins ended up being the first WR off of the board when Evans was drafted.

Don't let the folks that were pissed off about Netflix see this!!

This is starting to match @rippadonn's Matt Corral obsession.

Great opportunity for him! Getting to work under and learn from Capers, Evero, and Cooley is awesome for a player trying to break into coaching.

Funchess never ran dudes over. He was just a big body that was a great athlete. That's what I see with T-Mac: a smooth athlete that is going to glide by but not bully smaller DBs. Being a much better route runner with much better hands definitely makes him a much better prospect, that's why we're talking about him in the top 15 vs. the 2nd round where Funchess was drafted.

Link to article EDGE Pie in the sky: Abdul Carter (Penn State) Realistic options at #8: James Pearce Jr (Tennessee), Mykel Williams (Georgia), Jalon Walker (Georgia) Trade back options: Mike Green (Marshall), Shemar Stewart (Texas A&M), Nic Scourton (Texas A&M) Day 2 options: Princely Umanmielen (Ole Miss), JT Tuimoloau (Ohio State), Jack Sawyer (Ohio State), Landon Jackson (Arkansas) DTs Pie in the sky: Mason Graham (Michigan) Realistic options at #8: Derrick Harmon (Oregon) Trade back options: Tyleik Williams (Ohio State), Kenneth Grant (Michigan) Day 2 options: Walter Nolen (Ole Miss), Alfred Collins (Texas), Darius Alexander (Toledo) Safeties Pie in the sky: None Realistic options at #8: Malaki Starks (Georgia) Trade back options: Nick Emmanwori (South Carolina) Day 2 options: Xavier Watts (Notre Dame) WRs Pie in the sky: Travis Hunter (Colorado) Realistic options at #8: Tetrairoa McMillan (Arizona) Trade back options: Luther Burden (Missouri), Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) Day 2 options: Matthew Golden (Texas), Tre Harris (Ole Miss)

Man... part of me wants to say yes to this, another is hesitant. On the surface, I could see Thielen + day 3 selection for Kupp being enough to make something happen, but the Panthers would be taking on an additional $20M against the cap and losing a late round flier just to get 3yrs younger at the position (well... to be fair, 3yrs younger + producing at a high level). On the flipside, Thielen has played more than well enough and Coker was getting a lot of work from the slot. Even when Thielen came back, Coker was getting a good bit of reps in the slot (though a LOT more outside than he had at the beginning while AT was out). I think that we're going to see XL/Coker/AT/Chisena returning this season with a vet FA + rookie (drafted or UDFA) added to the group. Not sure that I see the team making a substantial move for a player, but Morgan has shown he's willing to wheel and deal.

Chiming in to mention that I specifically asked that question because it stuck out to me how he didn't seem to separate well against collegiate level players nor did he seem to really bully guys with his size. His game reminds me a lot of a more refined Devin Funchess. He's a shockingly smooth athlete while being a large target for the QB, but T-Mac definitely has much better hands and football instincts than Fun Fun (who was more of an athlete that played football as opposed to a football player imo). However, he doesn't explode out of his routes (tho, to be fair, he can run the whole tree) and relies on size + length to be one of those, "if he's covered, he's open" type of weapons. While I'm not thrilled at the idea of taking him at #8, it is interesting to think about how he'd pair with Bryce considering that both Bryce and T-Mac's strengths are in how they're able to navigate chaos when a play breaks down. Fifita had a 3+ second release time at Arizona last season despite it being a first read offense... just imagine what T-Mac could do with somebody like Bryce instead... I guess it's fair to say that while I asked, T-Mac's lack of separation concerns me but I'm not worried?