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It really isn’t. We’ve paid out way too much for mediocre results. Our 2024 cap according to Spotrac is $40M and that doesn’t include Burns and a full roster. If we tag Burns and say sign Higgins, we are done unless we start eating into 2025. Bumping up against the cap in 2023 and 2024 is sad when you have a rookie QB contract and you win 2-5 games per year. Remember at the beginning of the 2023 offseason when our 2024 cap was lauded for have over $100M in cap (like 2025 now)? Well, that’s because we didn’t even have a full team and now we are one tag and one WR FA signing away from having to restructure deals for a 2-15 team.

Like we should have done in 2020 and 2022 and didn’t.

My god, Burns was completely mishandled. You either accept that huge deal or you don’t and have an extension in hand. We did neither.

CMC said in an interview that he was surprised by the trade. People in here are trying to soften the blow by acting like he wanted out and that he faked injuries to sit out. CMC had never given any indication he was a malcontent. Teams all over have been known to IR players when their season is done and they don’t want a high usage player to get hurt or take a risk of reinjury. Look at our OL issues which seem to stem from getting major injuries in the week 18 game last year and those players never getting really healthy.

Unfortunately, very likely but Fitterer would only have screwed up the 2023 2nd and he wouldn’t have been able to mess up the future 1sts.

It really is getting crazy. Now there’s friends of friends saying Tepper was fighting with them at practice. SMH, he’s a shitty owner but it’s been beyond ridiculous. The funny thing with that picture is that there’s no one on the left side of the tunnel. Someone above said something about an incident. Maybe security saw someone leaning over. If it was a policy, it doesn’t make sense to do one side of the tunnel and not the other but critical thinking is harder LOL. Much easier to just pile on.

Lol, awesome!

C’mon, at least be honest on Fitterer. He was truly the worst GM ever just looking at all of our moves over 3 years. I know I asked you before and you never answered but seeing as he’s gone, humor me! Could you point out his best value draft pick as proof that he was worth keeping? I can only hope that Tepper somehow read all the “bad” moves threads and it finally clicked.

It hurts getting proven wrong when you’ve been leading the bandwagon. It’s funny that he gets all upset too and even though he says he doesn't want to play, he always responds. I figured I’d needle him on this glorious day since he was Fitterer’s biggest supporter!

Of course not, but you’re still in here talking about Brown’s offense getting shut out twice to defend Reich. I will say yesterday was the flukiest shutout I’ve ever seen. One TD wiped away because of a fumble inches away, a missed FG after a terrible taking of a sack and another TD wiped out because TMJ lined up wrong. Heck TMJ’s awful blocking attempt likely kept Chuba from another long TD. WTF he even played is beyond me.

Damn, you really can’t get off the wagons of the guys you thought were solid. Reich’s gone, he did a shitty job. Has Brown done better? Nope, but he’s not going to be here anymore either. I haven’t read this whole thread but I really hope you didn’t post about how Fitterer never really got a shot either.

If he never gets another GM job, I think it would be safe to say his list of draft picks, trades and FA signings is top of the worst GM in history list. So glad we are moving on and when you look at his 3 years of moves, it’s comical to think that he still had supporters this season because we LOL still hadn’t seen what he could do on his own. I’m still upset that we didn’t toss him with Rhule and had a competent GM in place to review our trade offers and make the necessary moves to rebuild and get in range to get a top QB without a trade.

Sorry, but I really don’t believe the hype on these stories. You can find all kinds of like/love stories on every prospect. We had tons of good stuff to say about Young, Stroud and AR. Same with Pickett and friends the year before. We met and had positive articles on Pickett, Willis and Corral. Stroud called Nicole Mama Tepp so maybe Nicole was smitten by Stroud and it was Reich and Fitterer who vetoed her for Young. 95% of the stories about McCown were that he told CJ that they’d play a pickup game in Charlotte. Stroud loves sports including basketball so that’s literally small talk with CJ. I’ll say it again, if Josh and Frank loved CJ so much then I’m glad they are gone. If after their many years in the NFL (as QBs no less) they can’t convince Fitterer and Tepper to go Stroud that’s sad.

Agree. We had maybe a couple actually good moves out of dozens of draft picks, FAs and trades. There’s so little good that I can’t understand why we would want to keep anyone. If Morgan wasn’t a former Panther, no one would be suggesting to keep him.

Thanks! We already know we aren’t going to the playoffs, even if we are in the 1 division with the easiest route, so maybe we actually take advantage of it. If Fitterer isn’t gone, we’ll likely spend a ton of future cap to try and get to 5 wins and we’ll waste our chance yet again.

While it would suck watching, 0-17 might be the best thing for us. It would simultaneously prove Young isn’t the guy and give us the top pick to select our future QB, hopefully.

You and me both. Still can’t believe so many idiots said we couldn’t possibly replace Burns. We could have traded the 2nd for Sweat and had two firsts. Fitterer just completed fuged it up. Anyone could see that two firsts and pick 36 (could have used a 4th to trade up to Levis’ pick and taken La Porta) plus $25-30M to sign a Floyd/Reddick level edge and also a $10-12M OL like a healthy Corbett, could net us 5 starters. A smart GM would have asked SF for their 2024 1st and 2nd and gotten 3 1sts and a 2nd for Burns and Moore and whatever else we could have gotten for Chinn and anyone not named Luvu/Brown so that we tank the rest of 2023. Young sucks but had we just used our single pick in the draft to get him, it wouldn’t hurt so bad. Instead we have no CMC, an unsigned Burns, no Moore, a Chinn with no value and we are minus big picks instead of having extra 1sts and 2nds.

Welp, I got this one right. Shocking how most of the bad ones ended up true. Still think so? It was fun to bitch about Rhule but this team is far worse now than it was when he was fired. I still remember very close games in 2020 against both #1 seeds. If we played Baltimore and SF, they would have curb stomped us this year. Heck, after week 3 and still in week 4, we thought 2021 was a playoff team. Fitterer got more control per her fans to start 2022 offseason and brought us Reich and the current state of 2023. If you asked me if I would want Rhule for a decade or a team where Fitterer is the GM for a decade, I’d take Rhule in a heartbeat.

You missed not trading DJ Moore last year for pick 15 instead of throwing him in on Young’s deal. Could have drafted Jaxon S-N, Addison or Flowers and at least had a cheap WR for a few years. Then we might have traded Burns to move up for Young instead and just maybe not give up pick #1 overall since Burns was worth 2 1sts and a 2nd compared to a 1st for Moore. Also, trading CMC for 5% of the Young deal and DJ Johnson seems like a comically bad trade.

It’s official, we are the worst team in the NFL and are looking at being the Browns of old who had top 5 picks every year and fuged them all up. Iky, Horn, Young and trading the 2024 #1 overall pick for nothing. Woo hoo! We are the new Lions/Browns.

Bryce doesn’t have it, regardless of how bad the rest of the team is. There is so much bad on this team that we’ve got a long time before we’ll see a good team, especially if we don’t drop kick Fitterer out of the Carolinas.

Should be 17-9.

Why is Marshall even still playing? Lol at the idiots who thought he was going to be our breakout 1000 yard guy.

No poo. That’s pee wee football knowledge. He can’t even be positive when he’s not even in the play. His blocking effort and penalty took away two potential nice TD runs and we drafted him over a pro bowl C when we needed one.

TMJ with a hell of a blocking attempt on Chuba’s run.