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Are we the worse at picking second round picks or cursed?
WhoKnows replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yep. If one day we decide to draft the strong/deep positions more and play the value side we could be ok. C/G is great for day 2. Same with LB and TE. Lower value positions that go after T, QB, CB, WR, etc. you are drafting the best C/G early to mid second like we always draft. Get the 2nd or 3rd best C (Frazier or Humphrey) instead of the 12th WR or 1st RB in a weak ass class. It’s so simple and it’s why the good teams stay good for a while. -
It’s a deep 2025 RB class and a lot of day 3 RBs have contributed this year so there should be some really good value in day 3 RBs. I wouldn’t want to pay a FA either. Grab a cheap complimentary RB in day 3 who can be insurance if Brooks doesn’t play at all next year. We’ve got a lot of day 3 picks.
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This. DJ Moore was a bit raw as well but he didn’t turn 21 until a couple weeks before the draft. Legette turned 23 a few months before the draft. Moore also contributed as a freshman. Right away. It took 4 years for Legette to have as many yards as Moore did his freshman year. Raw is OK if you are 21 at the draft and still had some decent college stats. Raw is too risky if you turn 23 before the draft and only have 1 year of college stats. We’ve taken way too many risks in our recent drafts and we are doing it day 1 and day 2, not day 3 where players with multiple risks go (older, raw and injured).
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Reminds me of Hurley taking Will Grier to beat the Patriots and left Maxx Crosby on the board. We actually had Crosby in as one of our 30 private visits but we took Grier. Fitterer got Mingo before the Cowboys did and I remember the discussion about getting TMJ before the Saints could. Gotta love how we fall on the grenades for other teams.
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I haven’t seen anyone say it’s career ending, just that you can’t compare him to one of the fastest and best recoveries, if not the best, ever. We’ve already lost 2 years since he got hurt a month later this time and barely got any touches before getting hurt again. Peterson only missed 4 games due to the ACL before he had his 2nd significant injury at age 29. Brooks is likely to miss almost 30 games by 22. Comparing them is apples and oranges. We always talk in here about not paying RBs their second deal because it’s the lowest shelf life position. That’s also why taking an already injured player early makes no sense. It’s too risky. Projects are too risky. Old rookies that aren’t fully developed is risky. If we just avoided those the past few years we’d have lucked into a much better team right now. It’s so frustrating as a fan to see the team actually play well knowing how little talent we’ve added in the draft for the last 5 years.
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He might not even get a touch next year. It took him a full year this time. The thing that hurts is all the day 3 rookies who contributed way more this year and weren’t starters most of the year.
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It is and I do feel bad for him. Doesn’t mean I liked the pick before or after, but personally that really sucks for him and for our team because we can’t get the pick back and he’s basically on the shelf for 2025 too.
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Damn, you are normally a level headed poster. No, we aren’t GMs but we don’t need to be to express our opinions. Just go into the pre-draft threads. None of us were banging the drum for a RB in round 2. We also were split on WRs with McConkey probably being the top guy due to wanting an Edelman type clutch, always open guy. Very similarly to what Thielen has been this year and last year. Sorry man, it’s looking like the draft wasn’t good at all. If we had taken McConkey and Frazier, we’d be pounding the drum for Morgan. The universal best loved pick was probably Sanders in the 4th. We’ve had some doozies of bad drafts since 2017, especially outside of 1st rounders like Burns, Moore and Brown. Morgan has not blown away Fitterer yet and he needs to otherwise he should ask for advice. Also, your post makes you look bad. No need to go there with the insults.
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Adrian Peterson was a freak of nature who also came back from the ACL tear way earlier than Brooks. Using Peterson as an example for anything is crazy. Brooks isn’t Peterson.
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There’s a handful of day 3 RBs in the same draft having decent seasons.
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This makes no sense. We don’t celebrate the loss, but we aren’t sad that we had almost won a game no one gave us a chance to win and we also stayed in a top 5 pick. Brooks getting hurt is good because Chuba’s been a strength already so Brooks wasn’t winning us games with 3 carries. Brooks also isn’t “back next year” if he tore his ACL. He got hurt in November of 2023 and he has 8 carries in 13 games. He just got hurt in December of 2024, do you actually think he’ll have a significant impact on next year? Based on the last recovery timeline, he might be off IR and getting eased into the lineup in week 14 next year. People are upset that we had a stud C available who’s helping Pittsburgh have a great year and we took a RB that is effectively missing his first two years as a 2nd round pick. Winning by losing a very close game and Brooks being hurt again are two completely different things.
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I kind of get it. His stats haven’t been impressive so I would also wonder a bit. He’s clearly playing with confidence and making throws in the past 5 games that we have not ever seen him do last year and to start this year. He’s leaps beyond that guy. That said, our D has played very, very well, especially in getting drive stops. Tampa and Philly are solid offenses and we held them both to around 20 points. KC’s offense has been meh this year but their D has been solid. I’d love to see Young in a Baltimore/Cincy or Detroit game where he’s having to put up 30-40 to win. That interception before half cost us the game against Philly as much as Legette’s drop. Game went from maybe a 6-10 point halftime lead to down by 4. That was his worst throw in his awakening and I’d want to see him tested more like that where we have to come from behind by 10-14+ and he has to carry the team. The D and running game have been solid for the most part and we’ve been tied/had leads most of the last 5 games.
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He was? We got 9 carries for 22 yards this year from him. How was he anything to Hubbard? But he didn’t and last time he tore his ACL it was November. Now it will be December, so if it’s bad, we basically will have gotten nothing for years 1 and 2 and he’ll be an even bigger injury risk the next time he steps on the field. It was a bad pick, especially considering the deep 2025 RB class and the number of RBs from Brooks’ draft class that have done better as day 3 picks.
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2 years older but a valid point. XL is almost 24 here in his rookie year, not the age you should be working on fundamentals. Most young studs who go into the draft after their 3 college seasons are in year 3 at 24. They’ve already been molded. We tend to draft projects, older players and injured players and unfortunately we draft them where they’d go if they worked out. Sometimes we draft a player in 2 of those 3 categories. Here’s to hoping he turns it around fast because after this draft, we were supposed to have our future #1 WR and RB. We even got a nice surprise in Coker and in Thielen looking like he has plenty of gas in the tank and here we are talking about using our high 1st round pick on yet another WR and I’ve seen people suggesting a 4th on another RB, which was a very wise call for the teams who waited in this past draft to take a RB in the 4th.
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It did. Not even close to getting the onside kick.
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Joe Brady is a moron. Don’t care how well you’ve done this year, you just called a play that means you have a 3% chance at an onside kick. Makes no sense to call that. Basically took away any chance to win.
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Dude, I was a Young hater last year as much as anyone and I was glad to bench him but he had a good game. Legette blew the game. Against a great defense Bryce should have had 200+ and 2 TDs while doing really, really well not getting sacked on a ton of attempts. He threw one really bad interception, but he kept us in the game against a SB contender on the road. He balled out for us.
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If only there was a legit C available when we took an injured RB in a weak RB class. SMH. Still boggles my mind with the loaded 2025 RB class awaiting us.
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McConkey is already a #1 right now. He’s not going to be a Randy Moss, but a Welker/Edelman is a nice option.
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It’s really starting to feel like Fitterer rinse and repeat. Take a guy a couple rounds early that isn’t polished with our 1st and then take an injured guy with the 2nd.
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Young was once again solid and made the potential game winning throw. Just like Chuba blew the game winner last week, Leggette blew this one. Young has been really solid and I was done with him last year. If only we didn’t waste our 1st and 2nd round picks as per usual.
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No reverse jinx unfortunately.
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The whole he has better drop stats than almost every WR is bullshit. Dude has bad hands regardless of the stats. We all have been talking about it all year. Dropping a great game winning catch is beyond comprehension. It wasn’t even a hard catch and there was no one near him.
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Yep. Terrible pick.
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Lol. We got lucky the CB let him go. Young made that play. Lol, and now he drops another.