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I am okay with him getting all year, at least if they don’t bring in any competition. Which they won’t. Right now I think he gives us the best shot at the 1st pick for 2025, so don’t sit him. I want to see what the new QB whisperer does with him. If he can make him look good, it’s a great hire for sure.

Jets scrimmage week. Exposed city. Whatever people were afraid of, was brought to light as real. I forget the timeline on the pads going on, and when the Jets things was, but the days with the pads, were Bryce Young struggled type of days, as I recall.

If Frank wanted to do that maybe he wasn’t sold on either prospect being a franchise QB. Or maybe that was pretty early on, possibly before the trade up? If you don’t see the answer at #9, punting with a proven player is maybe the wisest move even though it is the least fun. Man, Tepper plays the game like a Vegas whale. A wanna be shark chasing everything that swims. and the flashier the better. And then you see the sow’s ear he came out of it all with, after all his maneuvering ... he just needs to get out of the player evaluation loop. Period. I have a proposition for people: give Dave the 7th round pick every year to take whoever he wants, and stay the hell out of it otherwise. Deal? Okay, the 6th round. You can have it, every year. Whoever you want. Deal?

If people would only open eyes and watch him you'd see the issues people saw from before the draft. They haven’t gone anywhere. The fact that he is short as hell exacerbates them. People forget, but the talk started when the pads went on. He was not good. Go back and read camp stuff and see. There have been very few real positives from him. Growth? Well, he did take some snaps from under center as the year progressed. What else? A few plays that were excellent, out of the entire season. The best you are ever gonna get out of him is that point guard shite - tossing little improvised completions and depending on YAC, while facing a stacked defense due to not being able to offer a credible downfield Threat. I think defenses see any ’threat' as an opportunity to eat, in reality. It is why they dare him to do it. And people think ‘fast’ WRs are gonna fix that. It compares to Gettleman thinking tall WRs were gonna fix Cam’s throwing high. What this is about is two things, I think. Vision, and velocity. And can he somehow adjust his passing timing to be tighter, so the ball can beat the defenders to the target? He does not have that figured out. That is why he holds the ball and won’t throw it. He doesn’t see a completion there. But he has to start seeing them and throw the freaking ball. That is timing related. He has to decide to throw the ball sooner. I question whether it will matter if he does because his margin is so tight. The vision? It is a lack of it. Because of the height. I think he throws to a spot he visualizes in his head. The spatial awareness he possesses is great. But he can’t see and is guessing. How that resolves with the timing adjustments that must be stepped up at the NFL level will be the tale. I think it is too much to expect. So much has to come together. Good luck with that. As a footnote, I think anyone that wants to see what we should be doing, watch Dalton vs Seattle again. And he is ‘only’ a journeyman.

If you are thinking about winning games with Bryce Young leading your offense? You don’t want to mess up your defense. But I’d be okay with trading Burns if you make sure you are going to replace him with comparable. I don’t think his production would be tough for us to replace. Who sees us being in shootouts or up big, where we are gonna be rushing the passer all game? It is a little less important however they go.

Depending on if he wants to be on the team or on another team.... see what can be worked out. I would prefer to bet on his talent because we know what is there, rather than bet on another person we know less about. In the spirit of TD, stick with the kid - if he wants to be there - and hope he will reward your faith when the time comes.

I’d like to have some show and tell. Especially from Morgan.

Spys = Spooks.

If it mattered just a little in our process of failing at everything, I mean if not having him made that happen, I wouldn’t be happy about it. He is just sort of a sidebar. I was rooting for the 49ers for the first time in my life because of the ex Panthers out there. And because I can barely find a reason any more to have any pride in being a Panthers fan. Stupidest franchise in history.

Gonna be a bunch of ‘we’ this and ‘we’ that until one of his spooks in the locker room tells him something then it will be all ‘you’ did this or didn’t do that.

Theilen: The idea is to fill holes while not making new ones. Like we did with DJ Moore.

Y’all gonna post his college stuff again now? His footwork sucked there too so I hear. I don’t watch. There are things you can coach and things that coaching will not change. Coach his footwork out? So far out that when under pressure he doesn’t even think about it and never reverts to his tried and true got my ass kicked in the NFL form? Maybe the hardest thing to do in any sport. Look at Tiger Woods and all that mess with his technique. And if you can’t coach that footwork out we shouldn’t even be talking about him as an NFL guy.

That's me. I am no expert scout just a person who played in high school and watched and loved football my entire life. My dad did college ball and HS coaching so I didn’t have a choice. But the footwork, it took me literally ten minutes once I found something to watch. Which was his pro day. I didn’t have to look any more, there it was. Ran it back and forth a little to confirm I wasn’t mistaken in what I was seeing. Major question mark. That no one wanted to touch, for some reason , but I just don’t understand how it could be missed by pros. And if they saw what I saw and gave him a good grade, they were making the boss happy or something. It wouldn’t make sense otherwise.

If he had objected to Young and then has to stand by and watch someone else script That Offense and watch that happen (/not happen). And be betrayed by men you gave a job to on top of it That’s a tough break. oops: the flip is, if he was in on Young he deserves firing in the first place we never are in a spot for any betrayals to happen. They stab the next guy in the back. They probably aren’t picky. edit and I know that doesn’t make sense, I’d just have been done wioth him totallyt if he was in on ther QB.

When I saw your post I thought to myself... college. Someone will bring up college because that’s all there is. But I agree with them on this, he isn’t broken. He just wasn’t built to play in the NFL. Give him his props, he fooled a LOT of people into thinking he was.

News that he is a snitch would affect opinions regarding his value.

Fix Bryce Young? That admits he is broken, shouldn’t the current wording adhere to the party approved line of we have to fix the WRs? Or, the OL the OL! People are going off script. The mechanics of propaganda demand a unified message on all fronts.

I guess for one, who was lining up to be signing up to sell a potential coach on the organization? Heavy selling needed on Tepper, and Bryce Young. For starters. Maybe Morgan turns out to be as good as his friends think he will be and not as bad as his last three years indicate. He proved himself on the field and links to the 2003 team. I’d hate to see it not go well.

Y’all don’t think a person might do something differently if they had a second chance? That they don’t learn something? We aren’t talking about someone who has a long rap sheet of failed coaching tries. I got more, but for fug’s sake we are talking about making them turn this into a Bryce Young developmental mission. Whole extra layer of difficulty. Oh, and win too.

Good time to be an LA football fan. There are possibilities with those two head coaching there.

Anyone that watched Young play and thinks he is an asset, we just aren’t going to get along. Even if your name is Dan Morgan.

I don’t care for Donnelly at all, from, what I have heard. Which is ‘Bryce Young is mad! Look out now! Which is beside the point.... but really Donnelly? Okay. Next. If Morgan had not said that glowing stuff about Bryce Young, I would be fine with him. It was last year, but he was on that wagon hard just like the rest of them. We have to do it now because we will never be at 9 again! And all this praise for Young after the pick. You fuging said that Morgan. What this means is selling out for OL and WR and neglecting the D, because the QB can’t make people better more like he makes it harder for them. We could have done that with a 3rd round pick. It is too stupid, I can’t watch it.

Dan should be a good asset for Tepper. No one wants to hear Tepper’s mouth again for a while, Dan can speak for the team. I was a Dan fan big time in his playing days, his career ended too early. Hope he enhances that image as GM.

Like it matters anyway. Looks like Bryce Young comes back as unchallenged black hole, Tepper still here, the faces and names don’t matter. Good luck Dan hope you are getting it upfront.

My objection was to lumping all defensive guys in with condiment man. These 30th rated QB types don’t interest me at all. Including ours. You don’t think we are going to end up with a coach that is basically the same? I sort of think that if you go into that coach’s interview without the whole thing being about getting Young weapons and protection, you aren’t getting a second look.