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Yes, I am with you on that. Would not have happened. I'm not sure starting a rookie QB would have happened, or how any of that would have played out. It is clear that we need new blood at QB if we could get it and Wilks wouldn't deny that. In the end on him I have to concede that what I know of who he got for the OC and DC I wouldn't have been real excited.

Yeah I think I agree. Even standing pat and taking a bust with the 9th pick is far preferable to what happened. Much less damaging. Exponentially.

You seem to be safe.

With Wilks, no Bryce. With Bryce, no Wilks. I feel pretty sure about that, but I could always be wrong,.

He gets beat to the inside also though. I may not have said that right, I meant he is out there on the edge and speed guys beat him. They just out quick him. One side or the other, they get him to commit and go the other way. I mean, they are strong too so it is kind of over once they get the jump. I see too much of that for his draft position and future contract. To be honest.

Yeah, that's right. And Canales. And Diontae for that matter. It turned into a problem.

Whether anyone likes Tepper shouldn't even be a question. That Burns stuff was 2.5 years ago now or something though. We traded a disgruntled WR in what was really a pretty minor transaction. I don't want to insult Diontae because I like him when he wants to play. He is a good WR. Can be. But it is like, a little sideshow compared to the main attraction that I know people are sick of talking about. And that is now in play pretty hard but we gotta go with this?

I know. I had this in progress: I know this will get me mistaken as a Tepper fan, but I am not. Really, I don't want to harm him or see harm come to him; but I am not a fan and would be happy to have never heard of him. Better off. But man, people have the scouts reporting to Tepper. I guess I should thank people for the laugh. Because I did need one

Some of that was interesting I enjoyed it thank you.

Well you can bet Diontae's agent was burning up some phone minutes and people knew he wasn't staying. That's it, the way the game is played if they know there is trouble between the team and the player you get less. For, me I thought it was worth it just to give Young all these options and weapons and prove what was or was not. If they are waffling on that poo now still haven't made up their minds, it was a waste of resources.

You guys really think the scouts are making the decisions? I don't. I think you are worrying about the wrong poo there. It is much more the coaching turnover and the constant tweaking of what they want from one year to the next. The guy from last year's draft and staff not being the favorite of the new staff. The changing of coordinators nearly annually. A different OL coach. That sort of thing if you ask me. Which you didn't. And we had that going on with GM from Rhule then to Fitterer, too.

Maybe he is but all I have seen he is sluggish looking. Not any kind of heat seeking missile that you want in a backer. I hope there is something temporary that is causing it and it gets better.

If that turns out to be accurate, and related, it is worth it. Him looming on the sidelines as an option is the biggest hinderance to making progress and will be until it is addressed.

So how did we save 4 million again?

Teams go nuts to get the 3rd best out of a crap class. This is why I like retreads better, and try to promote the idea of taking a flier where you find it. Rattler was the one this year but there are guys quite often that don't cost as much t miss on and maybe you do hit. If you listen to Brady he is right. They have made the QB position more about athleticism and less about playing chess and manipulating defenses from the pocket because they don't have the QBs developed in college like the old days. I think teams might just need to go back to developing them themselves, more like it was when the pro style offenses were in the NFL and not in colleges.

I am with you on most of that. Icky looks like a G to me, can he even pull though? He doesn't seem to be able to really handle the speed guys on the edge. But as much as I love OL and feel like it is essential to have that rock solid, that was lot of money for Guards. When Zavala who was one of worst rookies I remember, can fill in and there is no disaster I feel like there was a compromise between his level and what we got. Could we maybe get two 50 million dollar guards and buy some defense?

Yeah that is bad. Looks like we bought a 5th round draft pick with our cap space, that's about it. I do like completely's idea of a send him to Siberia type of deal.

They could be massively improved, but there is no way to fix that defense in one year, so 'good' I am not so sure about. But yeah they could be much better with competent QB play on offense. I see too many holes still on offense and it worries me for the defense because you can see where the priorities lie.

Bro my point stands. Tepper can meddle any time he wants. He does not need a meeting. That is my point. Along with the hope he has chilled.

We don't know they are paying Chuba. We do know that there is a need for RB because we aren't a passing team, or we are diminished now in that regard. And we have not seen Brooks. Maybe they are trading Sanders instead. I would be. At least trying to trade him.

As was mentioned, the CBA since 2011 encourages this type of gamble, the reduced rookie pay.

That seems like the way these things go for us. But I would bet they knew Diggs was down and other stuff. Knowing nothing really about how long this deal was in the works, but people knew that if they waited we probably would cut him loose and it was for free then. We have seen the damaged goods and everybody knows it before and it does normally go badly for the seller. Morgan made some decent bargains in his draft trading, I am going 'benefit the doubt' this one and say he likely did try to get more elsewhere and that was it.

We did one for Chicago, so we needed one for ourselves I guess.

But here is the thing about these meetings that isn't being acknowledged: the guy doesn't need weekly meetings to meddle. If he wants to meddle, he simply sends for the coach and meddles. Or goes and finds the coach and meddles. Easy. So really, probably don't need to sweat the meetings themselves. Which could potentially be productive, actually. There is context which is Tepper, at the time Reich speaks, is uneducated by the events of the months that have followed, and may now understand that obsessing over not winning and why his prize little soldier was so impotent, was probably brought on by grief and he was in the denial stage. People do learn, sometimes. I just hope he has. I haven't seen but a hint or two of meddling - with the late game Bryce appearances, and I suppose that may not even be a direct result of meddling.

Yeah that is a good point he makes, I mean we probably took the best offer we could get. It makes me afraid they are bringing Young back. I want to leave with him.