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Yeah. As great as he looked, and it was fun as hell watching that, when you look at the postgame reviews of the plays there were some huge holes for him to run through. It wasn’t all him. We get the OL straight we can get production. IMO the single biggest thing we are missing at RB, is a short yardage bull. Especially with a QB that is no help there, we need to address that.

Yeah slow down. I have googled and still don’t know if a patella rupture is interchangeable with posterior cruciate ligament. PCL.

Damn we almost agree. I think he is limited. I don’t think 20 yards is deep enough to consider him a good deep ball thrower. But we agree that the field needs to be stretched. The defense needs to feel legitimately concerned about all of the field. You cannot have that unless you threaten it. Right now they are playing the odds that one throw and catch is a fluke and they have a better chance not worrying about it. Case in point the Rams regular season, he did it once and they still left it unaccounted for. Who else would defenses play that way?

No we are gonna draft Sadiq, if you read the board today.

There is a scenario where coming to us would be 2 or 3 players who we could get in the mid 20s or so looking good to be there and a player people would trade up for, that would be redundant or a luxury for us, falling to 19. It is a very specific scenario that if it doesn’t come together, it just doesn’t. But if it did…

With this guy in charge now, the game could be moved to Europe next year.

You are confusing me now with the 2 at the same time stuff. The question we should be asking is simply what are his prospects 2-4 years down the road? Does this prevent him from returning to his pre injury level or will it leave him degraded? And if yes then how much? In a best case we may be able to get a handle on that by November/December, if he heals up cleanly and rehabs with no setbacks. Which is helpful for next year and maybe beyond.

Brooks … was that but may no longer be that. After 2 ACLs he is a lottery ticket. We don’t know. If we ever did. If we want to be secure in what we can put at RB, we are gonna have to address it as if he isn’t there. Let’s say we do address it successfully and he shines and then we are overcrowded. Trade deadline, someone can move out.

The context is, we still need multiple starters and we have more issues than decent picks.

I was looking for lingering at 35, or 25. Because if 35 that isn’t a big consideration for a 25 year old football player. Or however old Icky is. It’s okay if you don’t know, I am not demanding you give me a definite answer… you just provided the info that someone else maybe could have added some better context to

I would think RB is high on their list. I think we need a bowling ball that can catch. Like Tolbert. Young throws so many balls near the LOS you could get a lot out of the right RB.

If he is so desirable, trade out of the pick and set ourselves up to get the overall team straight. Get your explosive from later speedy WR. Or not. We have done enough loading up with high pick receiving options for a guy that may not throw 20 balls a game. If you want to get Anything out of that QB you have to protect him. Having all the receivers in the world is wasted without that. ps besides, if you want more receiving with this guy we have at QB it is better to look at getting it from the RB position.

What is the context of long term? NFL career or lifetime? That would matter.

It would be par for the course I guess. But splurging on a splashy TE, when we have had decent production by committee and have many other needs, is not a brilliant plan. If this is about replacing Tremble, there are guys in FA.

So you are saying we should have torn down and done a full rebuild. Were you saying that at the time or making that judgement in hindsight? The way it all happened was not simple. You are suggesting a simple plan, but that isn’t how it played out. If you are doing that you ride Rhule down to the bottom, which wasn’t done either. Brother I will repeat, it a convoluted mess. The Burns thing alone took a year and a half to play out.

I have been desirous of a stud TE in the past but that is too much of a luxury right now. IMO. For one big thing I don’t believe we have a QB that will maximize the investment. If people think we could recreate Cam and Greg, I would say they are dreaming. For another we have holes a lot bigger than a perceived hole at TE.

That might be a good argument against spending the 19th pick on a TE. Committee is working pretty well.

There is the answer as to the 5th year. I knew there had to be something.

Yeah that would be cool.

Yeah. I haven’t seen much if any move up in the first talk. Seen some trade back to get some ammo to move higher in the second, I have said that.

He flashes, like a caution light. What did he do the very next game? For example. It was SF MNF. Not too good. IIRC Canales tried to parlay that Atlanta game into okay Bryce can beat you with his arm. How did that work out? It flopped. That is what we have been sitting here saying. He has played well but then it disappears back to same old Bryce. His floor is the problem more than his ceiling. He must raise his floor. That is the assignment and honestly it was the assignment last year too. You ready to pay him?

I said before, if his level is Rams WC game and can make that be the norm, I would be okay with him. It was not Great and I don’t like not having certain skills at the position but it was good enough to meet an acceptable competitive standard. For me. To get off his ass.

I can see that too. I am keeping in mind that we may have two shots, another next year. A guy taken this year could become ROT maybe as soon as next season. So maybe there is a second round guy if they don’t like the options at 19. ps I would understand if they hesitate to jump in with both feet for LOT until they have a definitive take on if Icky can come back.

Need will drive up the price. Supply and demand. I know Darnold had a 14-3 year or something before he got 3/100. And Willis obviously hasn’t. I still think it will take more than 12-15. We’ll probably find out within a couple of weeks.

They strung that along for years though. And still, after Brees left, have gone 9-8 twice, 7-10, and they won 5 and whatever the did last year. They look to be straight at QB again, I think Moore is a good hire…. I could deal with that in a few years if we could win a few years.