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Did you see that thing about his injury rehab actually strengthening his arm?

Yeah okay. I need better than lumping a 20 yard throw in with a 50 yard dime. For instance. There is a difference, okay? It can be rather large. NFL, PFF, DGAF, ESPN, none of them ask me but they should because they have it wrong.

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I would never use that standard. Don’t care what they say. PFF, pfff.. This is sort of like what is left or right of center politically, the goal posts shift according to the goals of the person setting the boundary lines. I really can’t agree to this 20 yard standard because it completely devalues a true deep ball. 40 inthe air, or in PJ’s case, was it 63? It was crazy. Ansd it wouyld only rate ‘the same as a 20 yard throw. That just doesn’t work for me and it has absolutely nothing to do with Bryce Young. Really, it doesn’t. Which, I get that a Young fan would be fine calling 20 yards downfield ‘deep’ but I don’t think the world would make that a standard just for him. So I am not saying that is the reason. I think ‘chunk plays’ serves to fill the gap and reward thew 20 yard type of stuff.

I’d just as soon have kept PJ as what they did.

Chunk plays are 20 plus. About deep balls. If I am at the 20 facing the end zone. I’m in the Red Zone. Throwing to the goal line makes it a deep ball? So 20 is deep. And 40 is deep. And 50 is deep. It doesn’t really synch up to my way of looking at things. 20 has to be medium to me.

I don’t think a ball 20 yards downfield should be considered a deep ball. Because it isn’t.

Is this one of the ones where he doesn’t blame Young he blames about everyone else? That’s pretty much what I remember from those. Since those problems are all addressed, allegedly, everything will be great I’m sure.

Yes. I was there from the start, before the draft. I never was able to understand the love and still waiting to see that justified. We’ll see, for sure soon enough but he seems to need to go 100% effort to get any zip and power. Not at all ideal. The footwork showed issues at his pro day.

There are just gonna be things they shouldn’t try to do. You don’t force your weak points into your game, I mean why would you want to? Maybe do it so infrequently you have the surprise element. If he isn’t 1 of 11, but is more like .75 of 11? That’s on the scheme architect to account for.

Sounds like we got Ted Ginn redo with Johnson.

Well, what they spent on Young, they went through the coaching thing last year, they have a new coach brought here to fix him. They have invested in all this around him. They are going to dot the ‘i’s and cross the ’t’s and due diligence and all that, which they should do. It just takes time we really don’t want to invest but it is the prudent path. It’s going to be some sadly funny poo if after investing in the OL, all the weapons, they won’t throw it deep. I can’t believe that is going to be the case.

Yet that is what gets some people going. Ridicule and derogatories might finally get a reaction that brings about change. Not saying that’s Young but it is definitely Smitty.

They have to find something he can consistently win at. Something to hang a hat on, and do it to death until they find something else. And then do those two things to death. Rinse and repeat. I wonder how far that will go. The only thing I see is what we have already seen, I can’t imagine something much different. I am sure that is my lack of creativity and low potential for outside the box thinking, and not Young’s limitations talking.

They didn’t have the term FOMO back then, it is really good to see awareness of that concept brought forward into people’s consciousness. But it's like, never trash your system for the 1st version of a major upgrade.

Blood and guts. What’s he got to say about our offense this year?

I do wasn’t it a punt? Couldn’t put 3 guys on him at the LOS on a return. Blood and guts. Weren’t we down to Goings and then they put him out right away? What an unlevel playing field, after we had such a good team that year.

Comes down to if you take a Pittsburgh WR away and a Carolina WR away, you might look at track record to predict which team might stand a better chance of actually replenishing said talent.

You can’t answer that? Pretty simple. If he sucks so bad people can’t take it anymore.. Someone will decide screw tanking we can’t keep doing this.

If you can get things right with that it’s a plus. Any tool that you can find, you use. Okay I won’t argue the drafting of Young. Hated it. And like to go by what my mind and experience tells me not a spread sheet or whatever. I did note that we hired maybe the leading analytical guy just this offseason. If analytics was responsible for where we are now... that guy has been replaced with a universally top rated dude.

Waiting for when the game gets faster and actually physical before I even really pay attention. To anybody. I don’t think anyone had him taking on a huge role to start with, let’s give him the camp and preseason to respond to the challenge before writing the book on him.

Cola Coker

Sometimes they are so degraded they are done. Sometimes it takes another year before things are strong and the player trusts it. Hoping for the best for him.

Come on everybody knows fat people are jolly. We just hate losing in the style we have, where it went from a bad year was 7 wins to this, and all on a progressive one way slide. Every season worse than the one before.

Don’t miss him.