LinvilleGorge

It makes his hire in Jacksonville very questionable IMO. Forget the migraine issues that led to his OSU retirement. The guy has a long list of NFL QB failures and you're hiring him to develop the NFL career of the most anticipated QB prospect since Andrew Luck? Okay...

Yeah, I can advertise oceanfront property in Colorado too. That doesn't make me savvy.

When? Honestly, we've been amateur hour when it comes to a lot of stuff. "I can't wait to coach Cam" "Teddy Bridgewater is a franchise QB" Then we publicly trashed Teddy to the point where we HAD to go a different direction.

There's no dead money in '22. There's very significant cap savings.

This would be true if his base salary was zero or very low. It's $17M. You'd be paying him $17M in new money that is $17M in cap space you'll never get back by keeping him on the roster this year. Hell, I would've given up a 6th just to have him gone.

I mean, there's always the Panthers Way. "Don't worry! We'll get 'em next year boys!"

Everyone gets a fresh start with a new team. If you're not giving a guy a fresh start there's no reason to bring a bust in.

Can you just make this your signature. We all know that we don't know anything for sure regarding future play. What we do know is that Sam Darnold has three years of terrible NFL QB play under his belt. That's what we know for sure. He isn't basically a rookie as much as you desperately want this to be true. He's a failed NFL QB hoping to resurrect his career.

If you pass on a franchise QB at #8 then you're indeed betting the franchise on Sam Darnold.

A better move than betting the franchise on Darnold which is what you're doing passing on a franchise QB prospect at #8.

Awesome. I just wanted rid of the player and the contract. The 6th round pick is just a bonus.

And then they traded him for relative peanuts. Sure...

I'm fine with that too, but in that case you wasted a 4th, and future 2nd/6th as well as possibly forgoing a franchise QB option in the meantime. That's all I'm saying. That trade and Sam Darnold's presence honestly shouldn't weigh into our action at #8. Darnold just kept us from being in a situation where we felt our hand was forced to do something stupid there.

He wasn't available for trade given what anyone was willing to offer. You really think they would've passed in #8 overall at that time? We were negotiating this trade for weeks. https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/04/05/monday-afternoon-quarterback-sam-darnold-trade-panthers-jets

We'd almost certainly have to take less. But that's fine. We'd still have our QB answer in Darnold. The flip side to this is if you pass in Fields and he becomes great elsewhere while Darnold continues to be a bum. OUCH.

Then you trade Fields. Until we answer the QB question it remains a need and QB need trumps all other roster needs.

My wife is driving me nuts. When we bought our house in CO, we lived across the country from any family to help and had an infant child. The move was IMMEDIATE. We got all the furniture in the house and everything else was a slow burn that happened when it happened. Major upgrades the same. I renovated the kitchen over the course of a week a year later. Rebuilt the deck and added a patio and gas fire pit over the course of a month two years later. Stuff like that. With this house, it's like she wants EVERYTHING done NOW. Every time I turn around she's bought more poo expecting me to drop everything and start working on it RIGHT NOW Like, WTF? Chill.

Yeah, seems bogus. Some random radio guy said he heard a rumor and then no one else chimed in on it.

Yeah, it's just not adding up. You don't trade a guy a couple weeks later for what we gave up if you were just being offered a mid-1st. At that point, might as well just keep hanging onto him hoping his value will go up when some teams strike out in the draft.

I don't understand why people can't understand this and are hung up on the trade. The only way that matters is if Darnold is worthless in which case QB DEFINITELY needs to be on the board at #8.

I might slide back a couple of spots for less, but not all the way back to #15 for less.

Who offered that and why wasn't it still on the table later?

I wouldn't do it unless their 1st next year was part of the deal.

If we'd offered #8 overall at that point they would've agreed immediately right after they picked their jaw up off the floor.

This is where I'm at.