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Don't take it from me and my very informed first hand source... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41573-020-00073-5 As of 8 April 2020, the global COVID-19 vaccine R&D landscape includes 115 vaccine candidates (Fig. 1), of which 78 are confirmed as active and 37 are unconfirmed (development status cannot be determined from publicly available or proprietary information sources). Of the 78 confirmed active projects, 73 are currently at exploratory or preclinical stages. The global vaccine R&D effort in response to the COVID-19 pandemic is unprecedented in terms of scale and speed.

Tests in terms of treatment options? Sure, they're trying to re-purpose existing drugs. In terms of vaccine research? I seriously doubt we'll live long enough to ever see anything like this again.

Actually, I was wrong on that previous post. She just tweeted one potential vaccine has already passed phase 1 trials and is on to phase 2.

My primary source is a PhD who formerly worked for the CDC and who currently works for John Hopkins. Her specialty is infectious disease research. She was my wife's college roommate. But I mean hey, if you know a "topper" scientist than that...

Normally? Sure. Now? Not a chance. There will likely never he another time during our lifetimes when as much medical research focus will be concentrated on a single issue. There are already multiple potential vaccines in phase 1 trials. There will be a vaccine widely available during the 2021 calendar year.

I think the coming antibody tests will provide a much clearer picture and probably enough of a picture to produce a decent SWAG at least. Right now we don't even have that.

We'll never truly know, but if I was hazarding a guess it's probably in the 1% range. That's still 10x deadlier than the common flu.

Sweden is going to be a very interesting case study on how to handle this. If their numbers don't explode over the coming weeks then maybe other countries need to use their approach as a guideline.

That percentage is falsely inflated because it's 5% out of confirmed cases. There are a TON of undiagnosed cases.

I honestly have no idea what he's basing those figures on. It's really difficult to put a numeric figure on how many people would be infected by a population that has over an 80% asymptomatic rate from a highly infectious virus.

Has Dr. Oz ever been right about anything? 2-3% mortality rate for children is wildly inaccurate. It's way lower than that. The reason why schools are closed is because children are so likely to be asymptomatic carriers so the disease is much harder to identify and track within that population segment. Dr. Oz is a snake oil salesman idiot.

There's a reason why Trump is beating the drum to re-open the economy and there is a growing coalition of Democratic governors trying to formulate their own plans to re-open their economies and that reason is almost certainly 100% politically motivated. Everyone is trying to position themselves to take credit for the re-opening of the economy for political clout.

And suddenly I find myself strongly supporting Trump's brazen plan to withhold funding from the WHO. http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/disease-prevention/alcohol-use/news/news/2020/04/alcohol-does-not-protect-against-covid-19-access-should-be-restricted-during-lockdown/_recache?fbclid=IwAR2lkIQcxfDdziOa7esAbXO-caLv66wvhmP4JxoDwXQd5z14X02jAmHZulg Alcohol does not protect against COVID-19; access should be restricted during lockdown Denver tried this when they initially announced their stay at home guidelines. Liquor stores and marijuana businesses initially were not going to be deemed essential businesses and would've been forced to close for the duration of the stay at home order. People flocked to them in such droves that decision was changed almost immediately.

Theaters will come back. The studios need that box office money. I don't see these efforts of trying to sell a stream for a new movie for $20 going over well at all.

The western U.S. did a much better job handling their outbreaks.

It's interesting to me how Cuomo has become the shining star of this pandemic in America while his state has one of if not the worst outbreak on the globe. Governor Polis here in CO sounds like he's going to be using the data over the next five days to make a call on whether or not to extend the stay at home order or lift it when it expires on April 26th. I just hope that when they get lifted people actually adhere to the social distancing guidelines.

This whole situation is exposing a lot of hypocricy. We have "states rights" people cheering the POTUS proclaiming his absolute power and you have "yay strong federal government" cheering states for thumbing their noses at the federal government.

Both of which were largely aftershocks of WWI, WWII especially.

Meanwhile, in DC... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY

No. The stay at home orders were due to the transmission of the disease getting out of control because we waited too long to act. As the curve flattens over the coming days and significantly declines over coming weeks, you'll see stay at home orders start to lift. There will be a return to somewhat normalcy. The "somewhat" is in there because we will still need to follow social distancing protocols to prevent a second exponential rise in cases. If people follow those protocols, we can likely prevent any further stay at home mandates. But, the average person is really incredibly dumb and half of the people out there are even dumber than that... so, we'll see.

Which was the whole point of social distancing and stay at home mandates all along. I just hope people actually understand this when stay at home mandates start getting lifted in the coming weeks. If they don't follow social distancing guidelines we'll see the second wave and everything will go right back to stay at home mandates again.

Wait, so the growth curve has been greatly reduced... yet social distancing hasn't been going that well. Interesting.

Nailed it. Except I'd say it's more like watching Shanahan screw up this year's Super Bowl. You're out to a nice lead what you do and then decide to switch tactics and have a Jimmy G vs. Mahomes shootout then act shocked by the results. It won't be going too conservative that seals our fate on this one, it'll be over-aggressiveness. You already have Trump pounding the drum in the White House and now we're watching a coalition of Democratic governors band together, both vying to put themselves in position to claim victory on re-opening the American economy.

Anyone who has been paying attention pretty much already realized this would be the case.