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Something I found very interesting is that the data that Colorado is using for their models is accounting for 82% asymptomatic under the age of 30, 53% asymptomatic between the ages of 30-59, and 21% asymptomatic age 70+. Iceland has the highest percentage of testing in the world and they're finding that overall 50% of the cases are asymptomatic which if you do the math for the Colorado modeling, it probably averages out to accounting for an overall roughly 50% asymptomatic rate. While an overall 50% asymptomatic rate seems like a positive thing for the individual since you have 50/50 odds of not experiencing any symptoms if you contract this disease, from a pandemic control standpoint it's an absolute nightmare. The idea of only isolating the sick gets tossed right out the window. Widespread testing or stay at home protocols become the only real control mechanisms. Given that we don't have the capability of widespread testing, that only leaves one option. The 82% asymptomatic rate in people under 30 is highly likely why the first step virtually everywhere has been shutting down schools. Young people aren't just possible asymptomatic carriers, but likely asymptomatic carriers.

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Who we elect honestly doesn't matter. Our votes matter on election day and that's it. Our votes are largely driven by who the large donors decide to back because those are the only candidates who can afford to run a campaign that can have a chance to end in getting elected. Once they're in office, all those favors they had to give to get those campaign funds get called in and lobbyists do the rest. Our politicians are just rubber stamps for the people and organizations that put them in office and keep them in office. That's just the sad reality.

Yeah, the problem with the "no clear data" statement is that in terms of drug efficacy, that data normally takes years to accumulate. We won't have that data until this pandemic is over with. We'll be able to look in the rearview and make a determination but at that point it won't matter anymore.

In all fairness, Dr. Oz has never shied away from quackery. I think there's enough evidence out there that there is likely something to the benefit of this drug for treating COVID-19, but Dr. Oz stumping for it doesn't do anything for me.

They specifically said it was because they wanted to keep the supply for their own use. They very recently lifted the outright ban, stating they'll allow exportation based on availability of supply.

Yeah, I think Trump needs to stop beating the drum on it. It's not helping. India provides roughly half of our supply and they banned the exportation of it a couple of days ago. So, now we have demand surging and the supply just got cut in half.

Holy poo, an insurance company doing something decent? Honestly never thought I'd see the day. What a pleasant surprise.

I like this model. Let's hope the folks at the University of Washington are right. https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections The good news is that they're predicting that it's basically over by June. The bad news is that they're still predicting over 80k dead Americans.

I don't doubt it. As much as my wife and kid and I are driving each other crazy, I'm sure glad to have them around. This isolation would be much tougher to deal with alone.

Yes, let's hope that NY has peaked and is beginning to decline. Let's also hope that most other areas implemented social distancing protocols early enough to avoid massive outbreaks. The next two weeks are going to be rough regardless, but let's hope we took enough action soon enough to end up with a situation that's far short of the worst case scenario. Things are bad, but there are glimmers of hope.

I'll admit that I have no idea how to moderate idiocy and ridiculous whataboutism that has nothing to do with the current crisis we face.

I'm morbidly curious, what do you think that link is actually saying in regard to what you were attempting to say, because I honestly have no idea how to interpret that beating you gave the English language in that post I initially quoted with only "what?" as the reply. The "what?" simply referred to your English being unintelligible.

I've ran completely out of patience with idiots on this matter. Sorry, not sorry.

I literally have a good friend who is a professor at Johns Hopkins specializing in infectious disease. I don't think you understand how lost you are. Hint: coronaviruses are a family of viruses. They're not one in the same.

It's amazing how everything in today's society gets politicized. Virtually every contagious disease expert out there says we've done a terrible job handling this, yet a politician says we did a great job and that's who we believe. We're fuged and it has nothing to do with a virus.

LOL

what?

The level of urgency and effort certainly varied greatly. I see plenty of excuses, very little acknowledgement that we did practically nothing to curb this pandemic until very recently preferring to simply assume that it wouldn't happen here.

It's on the rise because they tried to return to something resembling normalcy. They'll get it back in check again. We failed miserably because while the rest of the world was showing us our future and we should've been stockpiling PPE and sourcing testing, we were instead proclaiming the pandemic a hoax. When the rest of the world took test provided by WHO, we said no thanks we'll make out own. Those tests were faulty. We completely missed the window to avoid a widespread outbreak here. Keep thinking we did a great job. Nothing about it was great. It was completely and utterly botched every step along the way and now we get to pay the price.

That's not accurate. South Korea was. They saw SARS and they were ready for it if it happened again. Both South Korea and America had their first case on January 20th. Fast forward three and a half months and South Korea has a little over 10k cases and has lost a total of 183 people. Meanwhile, we have nearly as many deaths as they have total cases and we have over 330k diagnosed cases despite terrible access to tests. That number is almost certainly MUCH higher. We failed catastrophically. When we should have been preparing, our President was calling the pandemic a hoax. It's unforgivable.

It's everywhere. I hope this doesn't get as bad as the 1918 flu pandemic, but I'm not sure if there's any logical reason that it won't. That one killed 50 million globally and 675,000 in the U.S.

poo is about the hit the fan virtually everywhere