LinvilleGorge

Look at how this thread is dominated by ABCers (anybody but Carolina) complaining about UNC fans. I rest my case on the "real problem". Y'all really gotta stop derailing any and every thread where a UNC player gets brought up. Don't kid yourselves, it's YOU who is derailing threads constantly. There's one UNC troll (4Corners) and about a dozen of you ABCers.

I mean, you're describing life. When you're a valuable asset or a big time producer you get to play by a different set of rules than the average Joe. That's the case in the NFL and it's the case in life. Sucks, but life ain't fair. Don't take that as a defense of Matt Rhule, the guy is a moron. It's just a statement of reality.

I've been saying that ever since it became obvious he wasn't getting fired. You have a desperate man with full control and minimal NFL experience to lean on. Every team in the league is going to be lining up to try to fleece him and pick this carcass clean.

Shockingly enough, the Bears' and Bengals' OLs were even worse than ours in pass protection.

Because Rhule is desperate to save his job.

I agree that the choices at #6 boil down to QB, OT, or trade. Any other choice is utterly unacceptable.

I wonder if the Panthers could manage a winning record in a second rate professional league?

Probably because it was the only GM job he was being offered or seriously considered for. Beggars can't be choosers.

This is like a car manufacturer producing overpriced, terrible, unreliable vehicles and then someone with one sitting in their driveway trying to mock other people for not wanting to buy one of the overpriced, terrible, unreliable vehicles. But look, the left turn signal works and it only uses a quart of oil between fuel refills! Maybe the 7th recall will be the one that fixes the myriad of issues! It used two quarts of oil per tank of gas before the last recall! The process is working! 1000%

Yes, he spent almost all of his draft assets to build a middle of the road defense while trying to patch together an offense with afterthought vets in an offense driven league. Brilliant.

Doing nothing is better than making increasingly terrible mistakes. If we had done nothing we'd be no worse off and we'd still have those 2nd and 4th round picks this year. We also wouldn't be on the hook to pay Darnold $18M next year. Yes, Teddy wasn't good and I was fine with moving on from him. But trading for Darnold and picking up that option was idiotic. I said so at the time. Rhule and company continue to make idiotic decisions and you defend them as if they were the only decisions they could've possibly made. It's lunacy.

Anything is better than trading valuable draft assets for a proven terrible QB and then picking up his fifth year option. I sad at the time I would've either signed Trubisky to a low level FA deal or traded a late round pick for Minshew. And them I would've drafted Justin Fields. You keep saying there were no other options than the terrible options we chose but that is simply not true. You just choose to ignore any other possible options.

There are no decent options at Sam's age unless you're talking about the draft. When 23 year old QBs are available via trade or free agency it's because they are fuging trash. Sam is trash. Most of us called that out at the time. It wasn't hard to see.

We had an opportunity to draft two of KC's starting OL last year. We may have passed on those guys because we had picked up bandaid vet FAs who turned out to be really bad. We could've drafted Trey Lance or Mac Jones or Davis Mills. No, we had THE Sam Darnold. We could've signed Trubisky to a FA deal or traded a late round pick for Minshew to get a better bridge QB than Darnold, but no we had to go all in on THE Sam Darnold. Our issue has not been a lack of options or opportunities. Our issue has been that we have morons calling the shots and they've been making moronic decisions.

This. Tepper replacing JR brought great hope. We never achieved consistent success under JR and JR was always going to put the NFL as a whole above the Panthers. Tepper was an insanely wealthy wildly successful hedgefund guy who was supposed to be aggressive and pursuing building a WINNER. Yay!!! Things had grown stake under Rivera and it was time to move on. I didn't like the Rhule hire at the time because he didn't beat good teams at the college level and leaping from Temple/Baylor to the NFL felt like a huge transition to try to make. But, he had hype. He had turned around basement dwellers and made them competitive. He brought in one of the hottest OC candidates in football. Lots of people had good things to say so I was willing to give it a shot. Then we signed Teddy Bridgewater and cut Cam. Way'ment... that failed. Okay, surely they learned. Oh fug, we just traded real assets for Sam Darnold. Some of y'all may recall that was the exact moment I said Rhule ultimately was not gonna work out. He just doesn't get it. Look at us now. At rock bottom and still digging while Tepper just sits there mouth breathing.

Here's what will baffle you. If there's a guy from NCSU at a position of need that will help us, then bring him on.

It's very interesting how threads - or even posts within threads - regarding players from one particular school repeatedly ends in derailment by the same handful of posters time and time again. It only happens for one particular school. But they're not the problem, oh no. They're not the problem. Interesting.

Find where I've said it would be a good idea for us to pursue Mitch Trubisky this off-season. You're just triggered because of where a guy went to school and now you're lashing out at me because... ???

I've talked about plenty of QBs. Y'all just get hung up on the ones you want to get hung up on. Again, a you problem.

We're talking about the NFL. Some of y'all can't get past where folks go to college. That's a you problem.

Yes to ridiculously overpaying for bad QBs, Matt Rhule.

Ah, my bad. Here I thought I was responding to someone trying to have an honest conversation. I see what's going on now.

Read. I didn't say he WOULD resign with Buffalo. I said he'd probably do that before signing here. We're a dumpster fire. He'll likely have an opportunity to compete for a starting job in a better environment. Namely because we're arguably the worst environment in the league for a starting QB.

There's a difference between fear and strategy. Sam didn't have a choice. He was under contract and being traded and his agent knew he wasn't getting that same money on the open market. His agent and the Jets needed a sucker and they found one.