LinvilleGorge

I mentioned this awhile back. Gruden never seems happy with a QB. Carr is a good QB. If Gruden does something knee jerk and stupid which would be par for the course, he wouldn't be a bad option.

A buddy of mine I played with all my childhood was basically a better version of me physically. About an inch taller, a little heavier, and a little faster, stronger and generally all around more athletic. I hung it up after my sophomore year of HS. I could see I had no future in this game. He stuck with it. Ended up walking on at a bad D1-AA school. He quit after a week. Every day after practice his head was swimming, he was having terrible headaches, and couldn't sleep. He was clearing concussion tests but he had to just accept he wasn't cut out for that level. They were just too big and too fast.

His Senior Bowl performance was a perfect microcosm of his career inconsistencies. He looked like hot trash in the first half, then looked like a legit prospect in the second half. I have no idea what to make of him.

Well, I mean the best QB in the Orange Bowl is probably the odds on favorite to be the #1 overall pick in next year's draft.

He was traded a month after demanding a trade during which the Jags postured that they would not trade him. This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/10/06/jaguars-wont-trade-jalen-ramsey-despite-offers

He was a good college player but he's just not an NFL athlete. He's like a poor man's Ben Boulware. That's not a bad thing at all at the college level, but it's really bad for the NFL level.

Honestly, I still think Hurney was largely bidding against himself for Teddy last year. Teddy is who he is. He didn't disappoint last year if you'd watched him play previously. He was exactly what we should've been expecting. Fitts probably didn't need to do a lot of extra work on Teddy and if your coach is flat out telling you he's done with a guy then there's really no work to be done anyway.

Like, WTF? Why would you bother to show up if you weren't going to do what the coaches asked of you?

There were tons of people questioning his ability to recover from that surgery. The Dolphins were already in love. He could've shown up in a wheelchair and they were probably still drafting him.

Me leaving the draft party immediately after we draft Kellen Mond in the 1st round

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/alabamas-tua-tagovailoa-admits-he-may-never-be-the-same-after-hip-injury/

Yep. Lots of good slot WR prospects are likely to go in the 4th and 5th this year IMO.

He's definitely better but he's still not good enough.

The only things Elway can see in a QB prospect based in his draft history is height and arm strength. Trask checks one of those boxes but he definitely doesn't check the other. Feleipe Franks screams Elway pick.

Yeah, so does a long, long list of guys who didn't make it in the NFL. And Brady's arm was significantly better IMO. Jones' arm is probably roughly equal to Brady's current arm.

That makes him what? Jared Goff? The Rams just traded him and two 1sts for Matt Stafford. That's not good enough.

He talked at length in December about what he was going through. He said the doctors said he'd get back to 100% but that his hip would never internally rotate like it used to and to the degree that it used to. Now, I might be crazy but that doesn't sound like 100% to me. He also talked about the mental strain that puts on you knowing that you can't physically do the things you used to be able to do. It sounds like the mental part might be the sticking point. He'll either find a way to adapt to his new normal or he won't.

I didn't say he was a gimp. I said he was a shadow of his former self physically. Cam was too but he's still a far better running threat than most NFL QBs, just nothing like he used to be.

It's very possible. If Fitts values a big arm I can't see him being high on Jones.

I wouldn't say definitely. Gotta have a team willing to play ball to trade down and gotta outbid any and all other potential trade partners too.

The ability to rotate the hips and drive the ball with your lower body drastically impacts your "arm".

I'm talking about just what I've seen from him physically. He's not the same athlete he was before. He's said so himself.

I would disagree with that. Tua looks line a shadow of his former self IMO.

I wouldn't argue against it. Arm talent is about the same IMO and Teddy definitely has the mobility advantage.