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I'm honestly not big on Penix as an NFL prospect. I'm intrigued by McCarthy st Michigan.

Tepper's probably the blindest Bryce defender of all. He'll just keep blaming anyone and anything else for the failure.

Put the best tools around Bryce that we can and if he Pickles us to a top pick in '25 then hope we choose wiser next time.

I honestly think our offensive issues are more due to Bryce's issues than Bryce's issues are due to our offensive issues. Hopefully that reads right.

He's not just regressing, he's regressing HARD. He was limited from the get go, but now he's limited and the NFL knows it.

If he pushed to sign Sanders he honestly deserved to get fired on merit. My Eagles fan buddy told me there was nothing special about Sanders. He was just a JAG in a great running offense behind a great run blocking OL. Basically the RB version of Brock Purdy. It's wild how often hardcore fans of teams can see things that the professionals overlook.

He probably pushed for signing Sanders.

Same. Reich knew he was coaching for his job. It makes sense he'd want to bench Bryce. McCown was working with him everyday watching his mechanics get worse. It makes sense he'd want to bench Bryce to focus on mechanics without worrying about playing. Staley was watching his RBs struggle to find any room because opposing DCs were stacking the box because Bryce can't effectively throw downfield. It makes sense that he'd want to bench Bryce.

He really didn't look better with Dalton. Dalton was under heavy pressure in Seattle he just stood in there and fired the ball downfield anyway like an actual NFL QB. He looked better with Darnold because we transitioned to a power running play action passing offensive attack.

The list becomes the guys who have no other NFL HC options and are willing to be a doormat for a fat check. I ain't judging. I'd cash that check too. But it is what it is.

I honestly won't find it the least bit shocking if it turns out that what got Reich fired is insisting to Tepper that Bryce needed to be benched.

Well, it's playing out. The game isn't over but right now it's looking like that Alabama/TCU national championship game and we ain't wearing crimson red.

They still can't get over their previous narrative that this guy is some type of football savant. It's embarrassing watching them just keep repeating the "Bryce will be fine" mantra. Bryce will be fine based on what? Aside from pre-draft opinion what is anyone seeing on an NFL field to cling to?

What would I do? Step one, I admit the mistake and trade Bryce for whatever I can get. Yeah, I'm gonna be roundly mocked but it is what it is. The guy's a bust. I'm definitely looking at QBs in the draft and I'm bringing in a vet like Jacoby Brissett or Tyrod Taylor or Gardner Minshew to compete. Tag and trade Burns. Go after Tee Higgins. If I fail, I'm still adding at least one solid vet WR and I'm bringing in at least at least one starting caliber OL. I'm going to use the early portion of camp to have a LT competition between Ickey and Christensen with the loser playing OG.

This is the only actual possibly hopeful situation. That Scott Fitterer is the problem. Because if he's not it's Tepper. I'm heavily leaning toward it being Tepper but it sure would be nice if it's Fitts because you can't fire the owner.

I doubt extremely seriously that we draft another QB this year but we should consider it. And we should bring in a solid vet like Jacoby Brissett or Tyrod Taylor or Gardner Minshew and have a legit QB competition in camp. You can't just hand the job to Bryce again after this disaster of a season, massive investment sunk or not. If you want any locker room buy in you gotta make him earn it.

Average is a curse unless you're able to put together a supporting cast like the Dolphins or Niners have. You're better off if the guy busts. You might dupe yourself into sticking with average and paying him like he's a dude like the Giants did with Daniel Jones.

We've all been wrong before. We've all wanted prospects who went on to bust and didn't want prospects who turned out to be great players. I've certainly done both and I'll do both again in the future. It's fine. It's the folks who can't swallow the bitter pill and do mental gymnastics to create ever shifting narratives of excuses while refusing to acknowledge their own fallibility that baffle me.

It wasn't deleted. We never delete stuff. It's just hidden. Mods can still see it. One of the mods hid it it but it wasn't me. Hence my confusion.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

If we'd drafted Stroud no one would be complaining.

Per the draft pick value chart you need 5 #30s to equal one #1.

Imagine having three straight winning seasons. That's what the Niners have had since that trade. Panthers fans can literally only imagine that. Yeah, they blew that trade but what keeps it from being an all-time awful trade is the team success they've had in spite of it. Winning fixes everything.

The two times we've been anything other than completely awful under Tepper were his first year when he was focused on business operations and during Wilks' interim period when he was likely just focusing on the future. He's probably still heavily meddling currently because he's desperate for Bryce not to be a bust. Well, Bryce hasn't thrown for over 200 yards since before Halloween and has only thrown for two TDs post-Halloween. He's thrown for under 200 yards in 8 of his 12 starts. Zero 250+ yard games. Bryce's bust-o-meter is bouncing off the rev limited right now.

Three of the four worst trade scenarios in Panthers history have happened in the Tepper era. 1. The Bryce trade 2. The CMC trade 3. Turning down the Burns offer The other one being trading for franchise tagged Sean Gilbert.