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we all do that! no worries

and he and Lance had limited college reps---Lance played 1 full season as the starter. (28 TDs 0 Ints. 66% against lower competition for the most part.

Fellow Huddlers talking about firing his coach (He was part of the Rhule hire too), throwing drink on a fan, yelling at roadside signs, etc. He then seemed to disappear to some degree. Last year, no first round pick, and he was probably behind the trade to the Bears--and this year, I have not seen him. Frank and others feel that he has just become the man behind the curtain; others think he has stepped aside.

Yes--when you put it all together, wow. People can get rich at one thing, yet they get their asses kissed so much for being rich, they associate it with supremacy in other walks of life. Start thinking that money makes them smart and right.

Whew!!! I expected to find my name on this list in some capacity. Including my real photo (I am not really that inbred banjo player from Deliverance--It makes me look stupid.) I look different than that-- See?

yeah, and I think Frank's point is they seem to be pulling strings just being less visible about it. I was embarrassed to see them at Pro Days in 2023.

good points.

I agree. and I wonder if it left a mark--this is the first time we have had a first round pick since the young/stroud draft---I thought the power point with Dan Morgan ordering the oxygen chamber to help him recover would have gone over better--either it was not funny or people did not realize that he tried it during his playing days to help recover from injuries, etc.

There was some talk that he "learned his lesson." Did you see them at pro days this year? I did not, but I did not see much coverage of Panthers at pro days. Last year, no first round pick--Teppers not meddling--mad at sandwich shop signs.

but it was not about Bryce and his grading--that had absolutely nothing to do with the point--he and Stroud were simply the players who were on the table when the Teppers' input became so visible. The point was to humorously create a piece to ask if the Teppers are still meddling. If the angle gave you that impression, it was not the intent, and a re-read might clarify that fact. And this was written to be casual and humorous--like the power point and oxygen chamber. A restaurant owner putting up a sign and the owner stops to argue with him? Basically, this is a joke.

I probably did not state this properly, but Waldo is on topic. There was a lot of criticism about the Panther owners getting involved in 2023. Bryce is doing fine and it could turn out to be the right pick--the point is, they need to 1. stay away from the process. there is no point 2. It seemed to have worked in 2024 and they were in the shadows or out of it, but we did not have a first rounder. Then there was this altercation with the restaurant owner. This year, we have the #8 overall pick in round 1 and they do not seem to be involved. Or are they???? And this was meant to be light and humorous.

you all missed the point and are derailing this--it is about the Teppers' involvement is not obvious this year. Their involvement is problematic--and the focus was on this year.

Is it possible you missed the point? The point was not to criticize the pick--young is never mentioned and I showed photo from Ohio State as well...the point I was trying to make was that the Teppers need to stay out of it. period. full stop.

Anthony Richardson was a terrible pick--you draft a QB in the first round, you have to give him 2-3 years--it will take him 3 years to reach JAG status.

We all remember 2023, when the Teppers were making the Pro Day rounds. Then last year, the owner of this restaurant, blocks from Bank of America stadium, sent a message that was received by the Panthers' owner. https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/panthers-owner-david-tepper-makes-news-once-again-on-day-1-of-nfl-draft Why would an owner of a restaurant put up a sign of this nature? Flashback to the Tepper Pro Day tour. Brace yourselves: THE PRO DAY CIRCUIT, 2023 "THE HORROR." That is Nicole Tepper, all up in the prospect evaluation process with some motherly love and awkward post-hug expressions. I was like, "What is she doing there?" Here is the lovely owner of the Panthers on the front row among scouts and our head coach at Ohio State's pro day in 2023. MODERN DAY: APRIL 2025 So, have David and Nicole realized that ownership in the NFL does not make you an evaluator of talent? Will their egos allow them to let others do their jobs? Or should we brace ourselves to see their thrones moved to the war room on April 24, preparing for their draft day interventions? Have they been on the pro day circuit? Have we tarnished his desktop brass balls? Did the bartender hurt his feelings? Did he get the message? Just because we don't see them, it does not mean they are not there--lurking in the shadows--hugging people and talking to coaches. Texting stuff. "Dan, take who you want, but that Offensive Guard from Guilford is my third cousin twice removed." We need to be diligent. Stay focused. Keep them away from the brain trust. Seriously, did they get the message? What have you heard? Are we safe? Recently, GM Dan Morgan was asked if the Teppers were involved in the private workouts at BOA. Morgan refused to answer, but he did stare at the reporter for 43 seconds. This photo shows Morgan being asked about the Teppers' involvement during a recent presser: According to inside sources, a hyperbaric oxygen chamber, made famous by Morgan during his playing days, was recently seen being delivered to Morgan's office shortly after meeting with the Teppers, a meeting that included a power point featuring the Teppers' top 50 prospect list. Please post any Tepper-related news here. Hoping there is not any.

and if I wanted Sanders (Saints) and "heard" that the Steelers and Panthers were chattering about a trade, I would consider trading up w/ Carolina. It would be smart. Carolina could be reluctant to trade back to 21 because Walker is on the board, for example, so Carolina would not lose out on their first-round target and add a third in a draft that has talent in the third (DT, for example).

It does give the camera crews something to focus on, but I doubt Milroe is going to attract a lot of sympathy. In my mind, he should be hoping for a day 2 pick. He may see it as free air time--if the camera stays in your face, it is implying that you are falling like Rodgers or Brady Quinn, players thought to go early. I would say that QB is a position that tends to fall after the teams without QBs pick...so maybe they want that drama because it is predictable, but that person would be possibly Sanders, certainly J. Dart this year, not Milroe. No drama in Milroe, unless they give him a jumpsuit and a broom and ask him to clean up at the end. Maybe it gives him a chip on his shoulder even though he has no business being in that room--from our perspective. To me, he is better than Anthony Richardson....fwiw. The other side of the coin: That's right--I was using a coin metaphor all along. Do the producers know something we don't? I heard the NFL network (can't recall who was saying it) say they do not like the negativity of having a person in the Green room not get drafted--said the producers have to scramble to find out if the prospect left or is staying for day 2---just a bit awkward and bittersweet--not what they are going for with the celebratory nature of the draft production. They said they reduced the number of invitations for this reason. What does this mean? They may know something we don't. Rams?

Cam Jordan was on Good Morning Football. A player like Cam (lifelong Saint and a great ambassador for any team--I like him a lot) could be used by the Saints to create a smokescreen. He denied that the Saints would take a QB in the first round, claiming that it has not been done since Manning in 1971 (paraphrasing)... It seems to me, (conspiracy theory forthcoming) that bit of information would have to have been researched/premeditated/planned. Was he attempting to scoff at the concept that the Saints would draft a QB at #10? Remember, Carr missed 7 games last year and had a 63.something QB rating. He was not believed to be returning in 2025. When the Saints thought that one of the top 2 Qbs were not going to be there at #10, they did not take advantage of the void clause in his contract, the way I understand it. That means they continued to kick the Carr contract down the road. In 2026, Carr's cap number is $69m--nearly a quarter of the cap for a 35-year old QB they do not want. He is to be paid a $40m salary with a $10m roster bonus. While I am not a capologist, it is interesting if they really like Shedeur. All that matters is the perception that the Saints will take him at 10. If the Giants pass on him, and I think they likely will, Sanders could draw interest from the Raiders (I do not see it) at 6 or the Jets at 7 (more likely, but still unlikely). The Panthers are the most likely trade partner--unless the Jets want to move back. So who may realistically trade up for a qb? The Colts (14), but there is no noise about them taking a QB and I do not think they have shown interest--instead, a competition between Richardson and Jones is the plan. The Steelers (21) are in play, and the Rams are in play. There is, however, another option for Carolina as a trade partner--The Saints. A draft day switch for a third rounder might keep the Panthers targeting their player at 8 and add a pick in the process, suggesting they do not want to move back--but I get the impression that the Panthers are looking to move back.

Lotta people are not thinking offense. I am not, but there are some defensive players later and the offensive players in the first beginning around 8 are going to be good. Moton's knee situation could change how they look at it.

He is probably one now. Players do come out early for the money, and you can argue that a first round selection makes you rich, but a second contract makes you richer--and the difference between #8 and #28 is a lot. However, I will bet that 6 QBs go in round 1 next year, so maybe this is the year for him.

So what you are saying is--these clowns stole our idea!!! It makes sense. If I am the Giants, I might trade with Cleveland to assure that I get Hunter---If Cleveland is interested in Carter or Hunter, they get Carter and a fourth rounder. Hunter is a much better fit in NY. It was interesting that the Browns were dining Carter when Stefanski was away watching Dart. Cleveland has to add a QB of some sort, and I have not heard the Cousins rumor much lately. Trading with the Giants would give the Browns more draft capital to move back up for Dart if they think he will not be there at 33. Seriously, I need to watch more of stuff like this. I have not been doing much more than mocking and reading a few blogs by fans of teams piking before us.

I am not a Franklin fan--he was good on special teams, but he was nearly out of control with his mouth and antics. Good riddance.

I am still reading some Giant forums where these crystal meth addicts feel that the Giants will be taking a Colorado player at #3. I just do not see it. Wilson is their bridge and Winston behind him is a pretty good, short-term situation. Personally, I think Daboll is a good coach and I think Schoen is the problem--along with injuries.

He was a rhule guy and I recall him talking smack and getting a penalty or two on special teams. Stay in your lane. Nobody cares if a gunner is pissed off. Apparently, the panthers are going to more energy into the S position this year. I am excited about it.

Of course, McShay is suggesting that they would not have invited Milroe unless a GM confidentially indicated that they would probably draft him. They would not anticipate a trade. Who would like him? Pittsburgh at 21? The Rams at 26? Neither team has a second rounder.