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Nice work. Best player a coach's wife ever drafted.

Tuttle sucked. My list PRIORITIZED without Special team players Jackson CB Mays C Christensen (I would put him at swing T and let him focus on those 2 positions--forget G and C) Dalton QB (needs to be cheap--I would rather draft a QB in round 3 or so, but this year, we need our picks and Dalton and Bryce are tight) Tremble TE Franks TE (special teams) David Moore (Not a bad 5th WR, could be cheap--WR market not loaded, so he could be a one year deal.) Tuttle? Hell no!! Sucks. Shaq? Hell no--body shot, injury prone. will want $$ to play 4 games and go to IR.

why the hell would that source be "anonymous?" "Psst. Hey Person. Got some intel for you, but you didn't hear it from me. His footwork is light years better."

No, you are right. Just ironic if he thwarted the careers of 2-3 other WRs in his efforts--I do not think he was trying to get the best out of DJ--I think he was competing with him--there is a difference, but nobody will know. I also think he did the same thing with Clausen. It is interesting, however, when you start drawing lines between who is cut due to the locker room stuff and who gets a pass--

THIS MIGHT PISS OFF SOME STEVE SMITH SR. FANS: He WAS detrimental to this team. Sure, he is on the hall of fame ballot and is probably our best player ever--but he punched 2 teammates--and that is the tip of the glacier. Remember, I watched him haze and belittle Dwayne Jarrett at an OTA. Jarrett even reacted by giving me a hard hand slap when I mentioned it to him--. I know bullying when I see it (educator who has written books about trauma caused by abuse and bullying) I have commented on the fact that nobody seemed to be friends with Smith except Kasay. He was a bully and the coaches allowed it. Bunch of Alpha males chewing the tall grass. Here is a list of all the WRs Steve Smith 'mentored" after they were drafted: 2003: Walter Young 2004: Keary Colbert, Drew Carter 2007: Dwayne Jarrett, Rhyne Robinson 2010: Brandon Lafell, Armanti Edward, David Gettis 2011: Kealoha Pilares 2012: Joe Adams That is 10 WRs drafted and only 1 had some degree of success, Brandon Lafell, who averaged around 600 yards a season for 8 years in the NFL--it is noteworthy that his numbers increased after leaving Carolina for NE. This proves nothing, but it is interesting and coincides with the list of free agents we brought in during that time. My argument: It is possible that whatever Smith contributed to this team could be a result of bullying others into more diminished roles--Smith called it competition, and in fairness, he was the hardest practicing player I ever watched at OTAs over the years. But it seems he was Napoleonic in his approach to teammates, possibly damaging the unit and keeping young players from developing--transitioning from college to the pros must be intimidating--especially when an established player is constantly attacking (challenging, to Smith) you as you are trying to learn the plays and culture. It was so bad when I saw him doing it to Jarrett, it pissed me off. I think Jarrett was pretty slow and was unsure of the plays etc--it was his rookie OTAs. This is not proof, just an interesting possibility. If you have ever had someone at your place of employment with some authority start harassing you, you might understand how a 21-year old kid might feel.

You don't pay to have cancer.

It is funny that it seems when a player goes batshit crazy, 80% of the time he is a WR.

I guess you could look at it this way: There is a LOT invested in Bryce right now. Do you continue to make sure that his development is improving, or do you abandon that momentum and salvage the defense? He is good, but he does NOT have that big name, big time WR. Going to get a WR we can call a #1 is probably stupid right now. Here is why: Higgins and Godwin, the two top options in free agency, imo, are #2 WRs who got a lot of balls because Chase and Evans were the focus of the defense--I think the system made them better than they would be here--without a #1 to give them single coverages and no safety over the top. THEY would suddenly be the #1, and their numbers would fall. What would their salaries be based on? Production in other cities. It rarely works. Most top WRs in free agency to go places with top QBs--we'd have to overpay the market then overpay the performance. Most if not all of the top free agent WRs were often the second option during the pre-snap reads or check down processes. Put him in the #1 WR shoes, he is more likely to struggle. Some key questions I ask myself: What is wrong with having 5 WRs who can catch the ball and no single person as the true #1? Imagine a group of 5 or 6 WRs featuring well rounded, talented WRs. Not a Rambo knife, a steak knife, and three butter knives--A Swiss Army Knife. Let the #1 emerge and develop on the roster-- What would benefit Bryce more--a #1 WR or a stud #1 TE and a good WR with a good defense? I understand the knee jerk reaction to give him weapons--but be smart about it.

THanks for this, OP. There could be some value here. Dax Milne was a player I thought might develop--Matthews could fill in at TE for a season if we lose Tremble and don't have the capital to address TE this year.....Raym could step up to backup center....Incoom played fairly well down the stretch (He is 25 and in VERY LIMITED play, had a good PFF score--he is where he should be--

Not to intervene--sometimes we can get pulled or pushed on here and it shifts from the Panthers to each other--but I respect both of your opinions--maybe some common ground, where you are 95% of the time? I am out--just a thought.

I heard or read that he was eyeballing the Jags job at one time. We shall see--after that owner threw the GM under the bus on national TV, I might reconsider---It was my opinion at the time that Jerry Richardson's "Pie chart" presser days before underclassmen had to declare for the draft was the reason Andrew Luck went back to school--same effect. If you recall, he made no damn sense, he seemed to hit on Morgan Fogherty and he trashed Darin Gantt.

He cost himself millions of dollars in the last six hours spent on a football field--like in the 30-40 million range. My diagnosis is this: The DCs looked at Jets Panthers tape and realized that they could get into his head--. Sam Darnold is the quintessential front runner--a fair weather friend--the loudest singer in the choir at weddings and the lip sync master at funerals. I would like to add that there were several sacks where I saw 2 or, at times, 3 OL looking dazed and confused. A few times he had 2 OL not touch a defensive player. I think Darnold just became a Colt or Brown.

saw this after my post at about 8:09 this AM---I stole your idea--great minds.

Welcome back, Sam.

McCarthy knows football--I am guessing da Bears. Dont want him in Nawlins.

I think we need a new DT (NT) and a 3T as well--both need to be starters. I see A Robinson as rotational at this point in his career. There are some good DL in the draft--but you dont want 2 rookies--one FA, one rookie, in my view. Tuttle sucked at NT, and then there is this:

Jones does whatever he can to keep the Cowboys in the news. He is pathetic because his antics hurt him in the long run.

If you have not seen THE BEST OF TIME you need to watch it--

Here is what i do not get--Morgan says, "We gonna get some DAWGS." XL has gifts, size, speed, but Morgan's first draft pick--the one he traded up for-- is not a dawg. I want him to do well, but he needs to be the alpha and take it to the defensive back. It is not just about being physical, but it is a mindset that makes you think you are the best player on the field--that the others are scared of you--it is not about running your mouth--it is between the ears. I think he will be better by next year. Forget the accent--forget the Possum pudding--get your frigging head right and start thinking that every ball in the air is your next touchdown.

Yeah, but he made teammates call him Laddness because he liked Hunger Games.

early day 3?

yeah, when you need 7 starters, that is a third of the starting roster. Not counting Horn (if he can't be signed, he needs to be dealt. If we could get a draft pick for him and save $25m or more, that is potentially three good players. I am big into trading back if Carter is gone--I think we can add 4 contributing starters if we do--I am also a fan of bringing in a stud pass catching TE (instead of reaching for a WR in the draft or free agency-not a good year). If we can add the pieces on the DL, we will improve. They made the LBs and DBs worse.

It is kinda like when girls you dated become lesbians after you break up. Was it you, or simply coincidence?

Remember, this is the guy who came out and told the press that the Panthers were going to draft him before they drafted him.

I understand that thought completely---depends on the board, but I think there will be a bunch available after the draft. Did you notice I forgot QB? Not intentionally, but we have talked about it so much, why bother now? I might draft Scattleboo or whatever because he is so unique (to me) and would play many roles (STs, good blocker, FB if needed, etc.)