MHS831

and no QBs... Hmmmm.

If we'd sign a T or a QB I think we'd have a better idea about the draft.

I think Howell could be the best of the bunch when all is said and done. He has many of the same skills. I am not a good evaluator of QB talent. Some of my highlights: 1. I laughed at KC when they drafted Mahommes. 2. I thought Hurney's visit to Oregon's pro day to watch Herbert was a smokescreen (since the only QB from Oregon who was ever worth a damn was Dan Fouts) 3. I thought Josh Allen was a bust waiting to happen. 4. Back in the day, I could not decide between Ryan Leaf and Manning--I grew up a Colt fan. So my eye for QB talent is abysmal.

That is the way it was Friday as well. I am glued to the computer.

He scares me (as they all do), Dave, but I see the potential to be good in him. His mechanics are very good, he sees the field well, and he is a good athlete that can run if he needs to do so. I am blinded by the propaganda that is out there about him, and the small hands bother me in the rain and cold--but he played outdoors in Pittsburgh. Those who call him a "one hit wonder" are discounting the work he has obviously done to make the most of his abilities. I am a buyer, considering the options. Best about him: Footwork and release Concerns: Hand size (because it matters a bit)

The Browns need to know that we are not going to eat the salary. An even trade for QBs--both at the same salary on fifth year deals--gives the Browns a backup in Darnold and Baker to the Panthers. We still draft a QB... All we are doing is giving the Browns a QB who is not butt hurt and we are taking a problem off their hands. We could throw in a seventh rounder to make them feel better.

Just dawned on me--do we really want a QB with "pick 6"?

I had the exact same thought, Dave. I think we are going to draft Pickett. We could have gone after Baker (no), Jimmy G (no), Minshew (no)--not a lot of options left. If we are certain, then sign the LT and lets roll em.

some of us called that one--since Atlanta picks #8, that means that it is unlikely they will attempt to leapfrog us for a QB in the draft---it would have cost them a third and fourth rounder to do so, fwiw.

Must be that the are "all in" on a draft pick or they have the dirt on Baker's maturity and locker room crap.

You mean Hurts--and the other side of that coin: How good is he if he cant beat out Hurts?

If we got him, he'd be on a 1-year contract ($18.8m) and we could let him go if he sucked. We would then be drafting a QB in the 2023 draft. If we draft Pickett and he sucks, we are on the hook for 4 years. So there is an upside to Mayfield. He has played well when not injured and he is effective when he has time. I am not sure about his maturity and leadership---but he comes off like a prick to me, and that is problematic if you are a QB.

Damn that Person is just full of breaking news...Uncanny!

Is it legal to let some air out of these things if you don't play for the Patriots?

I read mariota to Atlanta if Ryan goes to Indy--do not remember where I saw it. Jimmy G is out--we do not have time for him to heal for 4 months. Baker is in play--he would allow us to draft a stud LT.

With the Watson deal, are they cap strapped and trying to unload the $19 m? I would think so...So maybe a team who can eat that contract would get him for next to nothing. I'd offer a fifth and give them 12 hours to decide.

Mariota to Atlanta?

He is going to Seattle. They are in the best position to accommodate him.

Yes. That is a valid reason. Of course you are kidding--me as well. If you give Baker a clean pocket, he can be effective. When he improvises, he gets stupid. That is my take on him. I also do not think he is a good leader. I think his teammates do not like him.

Maybe we are driving up the price for the Aints.

They wanted to see WHERE he grips the ball. Some grip with the pinky in the middle of the laces, some with the pinky more toward the back of the ball. From what I can tell, Pickett was grabbing the back of the ball, something that pleased the Panthers. (I know very little about this, based on my friends in college who were QBs---just speculation)

I even wondered if they waited to seal the deal with a LT until after the Pickett pro day-- A few notes (before I read the next 10 pages of this thread): Fitterer, Morgan, Rhule, Sean---the Panthers had everyone there. Fitterer was talking to Pickett about his ball grip/hand size. like checking a horse's teeth. Rhule talking to Pickett and spent time with his coach If the Panthers are not announcing that they are interested in Pickett---then I am not a Huddler. I mean, is there any team in the league who will doubt who we are going to draft after today's showing?

I think he said, I hurt my Baaaaack." Cam was great, but misused. Sad because he could have been great for much longer.

Mariota to Falcons would nearly guarantee Pickett to Panthers.

We are flying our colors in Pittsburgh today...fully represented