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I play video games while listening to the games on radio. Or do other busy work like washing clothes or cleaning stuff or anything else I need to do on Sundays.

Not necessarily. Assuming you mean we kept rhule he won 5 games his first 2 years and won 1 game before he was fired. I think they would've still won 4 or 5 games and we wouldn't have drafted Bryce at that position unless they still decided to trade up, or the Bryce just fell to them.

I hate how people act like you can only take one extreme or another. The truth is he is a rookie but he simultaneously needs to play better. You can criticize a rookie qb and still be a fan You can acknowledge he hasn't lived up to the hype yet while also admitting he has the chance to improve and be better in the future. At this point in my opinion he's disappointing considering what he did in college and how he was portrayed by the media and the panthers brass isn't what we are seeing on the field and that is what most people are upset about and it's compounded by the fact stroud is basically doing what we thought Bryce would do. You don't need to attack people for criticizing the qb imo. But the criticism shouldn't be leaking into personal attacks or extreme judgements when he's only played 4 games.

I'm just waiting for a game where he throws multiple tds and doesn't have turnovers

Agreed that was an insanely accurate take

Just look at the pie ratio almost everyone agreed until it got closer to the draft and the Bryce media hype train started to gain traction I think when it became clearer that we were going to draft Young a lot of people here started convincing themselves he was the right pick. To the point where most people were hard core Bryce stands (seemingly) right before the draft. And now that's backfired.

Rookie year I won't be anything besides disappointed with poor performance. But it would be nice to see him put together some complete games (ex 2-4 tds, no ints or fumbles, 300 yards passing). If he can't play a good clean game even once this year I'm gonna be fairly negative by the end of the year but not "out " on him 2nd year, if he continues to consistently underperform, I'd probably be mentally done with him halfway through that season. Def by the end of it. I kinda wish we could do a goff/rams senario where he sucked with Jeff fisher but ripped it up with mcvay and promptly out dueled mahomes one year and went to a super bowl soon after. We need a mcvay instead of a Reich. And a real gm to get Bryce some help. And tepper needs to let actual football people manage the team and go do other billionaire poo. That might be the biggest problem in the last few years since he bought the panthers. The only common denominator amongst all this 5 to 6 years of losing has been David Tepper.

You're just nut hugging if you repeatedly deflect all blame from Bryce it's getting old. The circumstances around him aren't the best. But he sure as hell hasn't been doing much to elevate the talent around him. The best qbs like mahomes and Brady do that. That's why you see new England shitting their pants right now. Sorry ass qb play. His untimely turnovers in particular were back breakers in at least 3 out of his 4 games

I laughed at the "deep throat " WR part lol

Almost all of those need context. Just looking at numbers Bryces look decent for a rookie. But how many of those tds came late in games when the opposing defense was playing looser to prevent big plays, and how many of those ints came at crucial moments in the game that let the other team run away with them momentum and the game? And it doesn't include his fumbles either And ton of his passes are completed near or at the Los. Something more useful would be a breakdown of completion percentages from specific throwing yards ranges Just glancing at those numbers you might give him a B or something as a quarter season report, but using the eye test he's played like a C or D in critical moments.

I think that Reich mainly accepted the job not because it was the most ideal spot but he simply needed a job and I'm guessing there weren't a ton of other teams who were willing to hire a coach that got canned mid season for Jeff Saturday to be the interim coach. It's possible tepper told him ahead of time in the interviews that he was a "hands on" owner and frank just took it anyway.

Those are the worst type of jobs when you got a boss just hovering over you the whole time telling you what to do. Big reason I switched careers few years ago.

Sounds like tepper is still meddling and probably is a big reason why we've never fully committed to a rebuild. Christ.

If any of yall remember school... having a bunch of red marks on your paper usually means you failed Fitterer, hurney 2.0, and rhule were collosal bumfugs in the draft And that's not even considering that 2023 draft might be the worst of all time especially if we end up giving Chicago Caleb Williams while Bryce is Medicore at best

I think Dak had a worse day than Bryce did

Yeesh Dak has 1 td 3 ints meanwhile Purdy when 4 tds 0 ints It's going to be entertaining listening to undisputed and first take this week

I think Dak kinda bamboozled them by overshooting his draft position by being a decent game manager while zeke was in his prime first few seasons and they had an incredible offensive line. Dak always gets exposed when he goes against upper echelon defenses because he was never a top 10 level QB. Cowboys fans are frustrated because they've already seen his ceiling repeatedly that's why they just can't get passed the 49ers

Pretty much. He would get traded or released if they do end up with a top 5 pick with their own 2024 first round selection I'd imagine. Unless they end up going on a tear and win several games. Then I think they'd probably draft Harrison JR to pair with DJ

A lot of cowboys fans have been jaded at best with Dak for a while now. There's a reason why they picked up trey Lance out of the blue

So was Bryce and then cj stroud really. So are you trying to say Bryce was basically sandwhiched in between two much better qbs?

What's your point here? Bryce was a first pick and Purdy was Mr irrelevant in his draft. Expecting the panthers to hit on a late round qb like that would be bonkers. It's statistically improbable and possible never happened in franchise history.. I'm not saying Purdy = Brady but the odds were similarly long for both I'd think. The 49ers got incredibly lucky with Purdy bc they traded away way more capital than we did for Lance. That and the 49ers are just a much better team in general with better coaching and drafting. Maybe comparing the two teams isn't too meaningful

Our starting most experienced MLB is out, starting safety is out, and both starting CBs are out. Also those early turnovers didn't help lol Also Detroit just has a good offense in general Early turnovers fuged them mostly Detroit basically put the game away early scoring off bryces ints and sanders fumble.

Until the media wave that pushed Bryce and put cj down with that campaign of negative news about him. Most people wanted cj until they got on the hype train basically

I thought you almost banned me in the off season for saying I didn't believe in Bryce after we drafted him