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Of course we need to keep evolving the passing and running game. You need both as teams are always trying to take away your weapons. And running or passing when they know what you are going to do is the goal.

What I have seen are resilient players who fight for 60 minutes. A defense that needs to be turned loose and play man instead of zone. A defensive line who are solid and what I have longed for from the Panthers for years. And an offense capable of coming back and scoring in the last 2 minutes.

Keep having to beat the refs and the cow turds. Did get one call at the end though. About time. Very nice to see all those cowboy fans sad and whining.

You are the one not acknowledging what the analysts who profess credibility and back it up with videos and stats are saying which is the opposite of what you are saying. I profess no expertise but I do follow those that do and simply repost what they say. Your argument is with them. What you want is credibility without doing the work and letting nothing but your already biased views color your ongoing analysis. When you argue with videos you haven't even seen using your already always knowing, with no facts only opinions (no matter how detailed), how would anyone take you seriously.

I think the videos didn't exactly line up with your analysis. Given you have been a vocal critic that tends to severely lower your objectivity and credibility to give an unbiased opinion.

We didn't get Ransom to sit the bench but he is still learning his fits and responsibilities. He will see more field as he improves. What the defense finally did on Sunday was not have significant breakdowns with players out of place or blown coverages. As he figures that out he will ultimately become the starter because he is a dog and instinctively around the ball.

Saw this on reddit and not sure of the author but he had the data suggesting in 2025 Bryce throws as hard as most qbs. His issues are not arm strength but poor foot mechanics. Interesting video of his drops and why he goes back to 10 yards. And an analysis of the Arizona game good and bad. Nothing about can't throw off balance or on the run. More about taking care of the ball and trying to do too much which are very fixable like no turnovers by the offense on Sunday.

Mostly because once a huddler establishes a position and someone disagrees, it become a contest to win the argument and a reputation to save. Justifying their position becomes more important than the Panthers or the players since their ego and position on this message board is being challenged. That is why few people actually have an open mind or are willing to change their opinion.

You mean the current board started in 2008. Yeah I was here for the previous board as well. But if you weren't here then you wouldn't know that.

What did he say that was wrong? Bryce keeps rebounding and bouncing back? He is developing chemistry with wide receivers? He handles adversity? He was a good leader even when he was benched? All those things are widely known and acknowledged by players and the media. Did Al say he was great or a top quarterback? Did he say our offense was good? Let's see how this plays out. I am all for bringing in competition at QB and said so this year before the draft. But I am gonna root for Bryce as long as he us here. Done for now going to go shoot some black powder rifles at the range today.

I don't think we have been good yet. We were generally effective yesterday when we got scoring opportunities but struggled to move the ball under a heavy blitz and new receivers who he is still trying to develop better chemistry with and a makeshift line. And last week the comeback was impressive until it fizzled out. But week one we were bad and we have way too many penalties and picks and the occasional WTF play. We were better yesterday and the offense had no turnovers although special teams did. We are a work in progress as any panther fan would expect. I think we have the most rookies on our roster compared to any other team. No one thinks we are all that amazing or thar Bryce is the answer for sure. But we aren't the worse either and this constant negative narrative really is ridiculous and drowns out everyone else. I doubt I will be here much especially if we lose. The conversation is so negative and constant I don't even check in until Wednesday. But I will be here like always since 2004. Just not engaging in conversations with folks who just want to bitch and complain over and over with anything they can find as if that makes things better or they are saying something we all don't feel at times. Most of us realize this is year 2 of a rebuild and there are ups and downs. You have to be comfortable on the roller coaster. But anytime you point out the good you get inundated with negative crap as if we didn't see it too......

My point exactly. Does that mean they have a poor offense? Of course not. That is why cherry picking stats without context rarely results in an accurate and fair assessment.

I get a lot more than you. Scheme dictates average yards per play for example. If you run a lot like Philly your average yards per play will go down versus a team that passes all the time. And if you only play 3 games then one outlier like Jacksonville holds more weight than it should. Plus yards per play doesn't correlate to wins for example versus effectiveness in the red zone. So yeah I get it and know that stats like yards per game much like yards per play have little correlation with wins and loses and the final score is the only thing that matters at the end of the day not some BS cherry picked stat.

It also isn't close to being true. We have been at the bottom of the NFL but we aren't even the worse team in Charlotte. The Hornets haven't been to the playoffs since 2016 which is one year longer than the Panthers.

This stat has very little to do with winning games. Philadelphia is 28th at 4.4 and Tampa is 22 at 5.1 but both are undefeated. Meanwhile Dallas is 7th but is at 1-2. Points made per game versus points surrendered is the only stat that matters and we are 19th at around 20 points per game. Not great but a good recovery after week 1. Why aren't we using that stat? I guess because it doesn't look so bad and we need to keep pushing the bad Bryce narrative.

That was not the same Evero defense yesterday. He rushed 4 and 5 and generated a lot more oressure. We also used more man coverage which wasn't that often but previously almost nonexistent. I really thought this was the best game he coached.

I think we are building the defense which is who we are. As for offense we are acquiring good pieces for whoever the QB is. If not Bryce then the next one. Maybe Canales can do something with Hooker. Who knows.

I can remember feeling the same way when we would go to Atlanta and if they only won one game all year it was against us. You can see why our franchises don't like each other.

I feel for you then. Obviously the losing broke you. Why not pick a team you can be happy about? Or a different sport if you are done with football.

Of course. He missed some shots and threw over or behind some receivers. It wasn't a great performance and Atl brought real pressure. It was great to see the defense play so well that Bryce didn't have to be perfect to win. That is what makes football such a great team sport. One side can pick up the other. The defense bailed out the offense and special teams while special teams kept Atlanta in the hole most of the day.

You clearly didn't watch the game. It wasn't ugly it was glorious. A pick six and almost another by Jackson and keeping Atlanta's rushing game in check after being so porous. You think this is an aberration which it probably is. But I hope it is a harbinger of things to come especially on defense. The Panthers formula outside of a few years with Cam is to have a great defense and an opportunistic offense who makes the most of short fields and minimizes turnovers. I would like to get back to that.

Nice false narrative. After dismantling the Vikings and scoring 20 against Tampa they were being crowned contenders and would crush us. Announcers seemed almost upset that Atlanta got crushed rather than giving us any praise

We start off with usually one or two primary reads and a third read which is your checkdown on most passing plays. But we do send a back in the flats as a check down or primary route when the defense doesn't send someone to cover. Or like yesterday we audiblized to it to slow down the blitz. All teams run similar plays. It is a copycat league. But you run plays consistent with the talent on your team. That has held us back somewhat.

Many schemes where you have 4 receiver sets for example there will be an unblocked rusher by design. So it is inherent you get the ball out quickly. Plus the scheme we run is predicated on timing and throwing to spots not holding the ball looking for a wide open guy. Something Bryce had to learn and is still learning. So yeah Canales preaches getting the ball out and having good play action based on a good run game to make it easier for Bryce to succeed. We could use both Waddell and Hill here too.

I was here the past two weeks while you dominated every thread with constant complaining. I decided I wasn't going to try even posting with all that negative crap. All of you would have found great amusement in trying to attack anyone with a more reasoned positive approach. So I waited until now to come here to celebrate a win. Not to champion Bryce. It was only after you and others make negative comments despite the huge win that I commented. I am a Panther fan not a Bryce fan or Bruce hater. I will support him as long as he is a Panther. After that he is largely dead to me. But again won't go back and forth. I have nothing to defend and just going to enjoy the win.