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At one point we were 3-8 and going nowhere. Until we won the last 4 we were going nowhere. And I don't remember thinking Cam was so great at that point. Cam had back and neck injuries from the car wreck and things we're not as rosy as you seem to remember.

That is so stupid logic. Wilkes didn't try to win for his own benefit. He was hired as interim coach to win football games. He didn't screw anyone or anybody. He actually showed that our talent was better than we thought as players competed harder and did better under Wilkes. It clearly showed that better coaching will go a long way to improving the current team and there was no reason to start over or blow things up.

In college football he controlled everything with no oversight. No one to complain to and players are easily intimidated. In the nfl you have more people to answer to and pro players won't put up with the same thing.

Go back and read about the way he left and was fired. There was a lot of disgruntled folks. The only reason they tolerated him was he won. The minute they struggled he was gone. If he was so great why haven't folks been trying to get him and why did the Vikings interview him last year and not hire him. Again your logic is simplistic and somewhat uninformed.

I guess you tankers missed Wilkes press conference yesterday when he said the goal would be to win the game against the saints and finish strong. There is no plan to play young guys or protect others. All these posts are wishful thinking and fan speculation. Players and coaches don't think that way.

There is a big difference between players who play for a paycheck and those who play with passion and purpose. How many of our players would have been cut playing like they did under Rhule? Then the same players played much better for Wilkes, why? It wasn't something you can quantify but it is easily observable. Player who play for each other and give everything for their team are actually going beyond what it takes to make a team or stay in the league. So to assume that players will play for any coach at a high level just because they risk being replaced is rather symplistic logic.

I suspect it was a dinner to express interest and telling Harbaugh not to make any decisions until interviewing with us. Feeling out Harbaugh's interest in us most likely.

But given how much the players like Wilkes, would they line up to play for an conceited asshole who is not considered a players coach. Much of why we did better this year with fewer starters from beginning to end was player buy in to the system. What if the players don't buy in? With that said, he is an interesting option as he has head coach experience and is a proven winner. I would love to be in the interview and see him address the concerns and lay out his plan.

Don't see Tepper going Ryans when all the players are firmly in Wilkes corner. Not if he is going to bring in another defensive guy. Plus does he want to come here? He might get multiple offers.

Feel free to add to it.

No actually we should stay at 9 even if we win next week. All the teams with 7 wins have a higher SOS which breaks ties. If we lose we could move lower but I will let that to the tankers to explain that.

I guess I need to spead them out over several threads like you do with your whining and complaining.

Texts or it didn't happen. LOL.

You bitch about everything. Now you start differentiating your bitching into categories. Why not try a different strategy and the 95% of what you think you don't say. Make it a new years resolution. We will all benefit from that.

Then find them and tell me who was triggered enough to.look through tons of posts to try to make a point. Pot meet kettle....

Winning against the Saints won't change our draft position much. Our strength of schedule is lower than any 7 win team so we pick before they do. We get a top 10 pick which will be 9th and we got to play meaningful games in December and January. Wilkes has done more for this franchise in 12 games than Rhule did since he got here. Anyone who see this as a setback has an agenda not based on facts.

There was supposed to be help over the top. Safety blew it as well. That is player execution not failure to see the problem.

If you say so sparky...........

You act like the fans are responsible for what happened with the franchise or that bitching cures anything. Most folks who bitch and criticize everything find a team they like and a coach that better represents what they want. Frankly I don't understand fans who bitch and complain all the time and don't switch teams. Unless you are a masochist and like being miserable all the time. I am a Panther fan but don't agree with everything they do. I just don't waste my time bitching about everything when I can't fix anything.

Of course I don't get triggered but your insistence on trashing Darnold at every turn needs to be noted and I did so. And I think many of us have been here since the beginning and know what great QB play looks like. You can't get Stockholm Syndrome unless you have been traumatized. Many of us can detach themselves from the game and keep their perspective.

Actually your unwillingness to give him the credit he deserves is the pathetic part. His touchdown passes were great as was his overall game. Yes the interception cost us three but the strip sack wasn't on him that was Ickey all the way. He played a pretty good game with 350 yards in the air. Darnold is head and shoulders above where he was all of last year. McAdoo has done a great job developing him this year. Darnold isn't great but his 104 passer rating is in the top 10 so he isn't the same guy he was on the past. Anyone who is not totally biased sees that easily.

Sometimes it is what it is....

Here we go again with the lower draft pick because we won some games and how hurt we will be despite the fact that even our recent experience shows that picking in the top 3 is no magic formula for success given we have 2 qbs from 2018 in the top 3.. Wilkes did more to return the Panthers to the team we were known for which was tough, physical and determined than Rhule ever did. If we hire someone else who doesn't preach this keep pounding culture expect players to play much worse and look for opportunities to leave. Players like this culture and who we are. If we go offense I hope it is a guy that has connections to our history and culture.

Actually I heard Wilkes address that. He said that on both the touchdown catches that Henderson gave up, there was supposed to be help over the top which was late and didn't get there. He said he wouldn't have put Henderson on an island like that. He blamed poor execution not scheme. So honestly we all saw the same thing and were screaming for double coverage. Apparently he did too.....

I didn't want him initially given he had no head coach experience and worse brought his college folks along. But I had no idea what was discussed or what he could do so I supported him until I didn't. Now though I want a guy with experience as a head coach whether he is an offensive or defensive guy. I am tired of developing coordinators hoping they work out long-term. It usually takes years for them to figure out how to be a head coach.