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Dude, a lot if not most receivers don't break tackles. What are you talking about? Some of the most dynamic receivers in the game are elusive as hell and don't break a thing. We're not discussing a running back, we're discussing a receiver. The litmus test for a first round receiver are things like whether they are a legitimate playmaker, are a threat to take it to the house on any given play, can get yards in chunks, and can have a marked impact upon the game more Sundays than not. Concepcion runs good routes, and wins at all three levels of the field, not to mention is a legitimate returner. Only wins one way? Come on, man. That's ludicrous within the context that you're trying to imagine.

Not in the slightest, my friend.

It ain't April 1st...

An even shorter midget. SMH

Of course. Why would any receiver who has the ability not be elusive and avoid the tackle? You're trying to make it seem like he's some week receiver that gets touched by an arm and goes down and struggles to make contested catches, but that's simply not the case. Is he more elusive than strong? Of course. But the fact is that most receivers aren't going to have a bunch of highlights breaking tackles. Steve Smith is not the norm, but even Concepcion has a few highlights, including where he wouldn't go down and basically dragged a defender in the end zone.

No mulligan for little time to develop? They barely got their feet up under them, but point taken.

Both of them were diminutive receivers. Concepcion is simply bigger.

I see you read Reddit... Anyway, there are different numbers floating around, not that YPRR against zone or man is the litmus test of how well a player will do in the pros, but I'll give you that about zone. Just keep in mind that he was a different receiver at Texas A&M. There's a bunch to like about his game. For you to look at a metric and draw a conclusion or parallels is just selling him short. No analyst I've listened to has drawn that conclusion. This link is specifically geared to Carolina (the vid is on top). https://sports.yahoo.com/video/why-kc-concepcion-makes-sense-for-the-panthers-130000882.html Matt Harmon of reception perception is really high on the kid, and he's another one (along with Josh Norris) that says it wouldn't be a surprise if Concepcion turns out to be the top receiver in the class.

We have Brandt Tilis now.

So you too? Are you guys just not doing your research? If we draft in the first, it will have nothing to do with marketing the "local kid," and everything to do with his explosiveness and upside.

That's not true. Neither TMJ, Mingo or XL were twitchy, explosive or quick. They are more lumberers that take a little bit to get going. Concepcion is explosive. He can shed defenders with the quickness.

I mean, I don't know what you're seeing or reading, but I've heard (not read) several analysts say that Concepcion plays stronger than his size. Like I said, you've got it twisted apparently. Keep in mind that these are only a few. The dude is as tough as nails from what I've been looking at. "Concepcion is a very dynamic runner after the catch who shows impressive vision, can make defenders miss in a phone booth and shows good competitiveness to finish his rushes. His role as a rusher hasn’t been as prominent recently, but received a lot of carries as a freshman. Gives pretty good effort when stalking opponents in the run game, with a physical temperament and better functional strength than expected." https://www.fantasypros.com/2026/01/2026-nfl-draft-scouting-report-kc-concepcion-wr-texas-am/ "Play strength is better than you’d expect given his size, a little bit stockier and stronger than this type of receiver typically is" https://jonledyard.substack.com/p/2026-nfl-draft-scouting-report-texas-eae Strong Hands and Competitive Toughness "Despite not being the biggest receiver, Concepcion attacks the football, finishes through contact, and plays with noticeable intensity. He’s reliable on contested catches and tough over the middle." https://www.draftnation.com/articles/2026-nfl-prospect-profile-texas-am-wide-receiver-kc-concepcion

According to what I've seen and read, he's strong. He's a dawg. You appear to be going only by size. I mean, there are some notable receivers near his same size. He's certainly not the biggest, but isn't the smallest either. Some of y'all seem to have the attitude that slot receivers aren't worth a first. I do not believe that. Moreover, Concepcion can probably play on the outside or "end up on the outside." Wherever he plays, his "superpower" is his dynamicism with the ball in his hands.

If Concepcion is nothing else, he's a hard guy to project, and profiles may appear to be all over the place in some respects, but he is probably the most purely explosive receiver in the draft. Based upon potential, he will be a steal for someone if he lives up to it.

I mean, dude, come on. There is a huge difference between the two in only one word: explosiveness. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kc-concepcion/3200434f-4e04-6719-61ea-f84c4a062c16 https://www.nfl.com/prospects/corey-brown/32004252-4f35-6941-7d1f-17d92e3e6054 From what I've read, Concepcion is a very explosive, twitchy, dynamic receiver. His problem has been some drops over his career; some he has to own, others have been questionable throws by the QB. Greg Cosell said that Concepcion may be the most dynamic receiver in the draft. Steve Smith is generally positive. There have been other, perhaps less known, analysts who are more critical, but even they love everything he does before and after the catch. Concepcion gets open! Is Concepcion perfect? No. But he does have room for growth. He's much better than a nondescript Philly Brown.

I mean, I ain't acting like that. Depending upon who and what you look at, he has improved from the bottom to near bottom to the bottom third. Yay!

Hurst would likely be a day two pick, perhaps later second perhaps earlier third. We may have to some finaigling. Could you imagine legit twin towers, maybe triple towers...?

For the record (around 19 mins), he "loves" KC Concepcion, and he said that he might be the most dynamic receiver in all the class.

I mean, I'm just stating who he must have been referring to, and presumably that means that he must think that he has a good idea of what he'd like for Bryce to look like at this point. I'd argue that Baker was never a bust per se, but that perhaps he was overdrafted. Geno was never able to sustain the limited success that he had. Perhaps it was him or the situation he was thrust into, but he's never really been all that. But, again, Canales should have an idea in his mind for how far along Bryce should be in his growth.

I believe the same of you. You're making a simplistic argument for something that is obviously more complex. Everyone wants Bryce to thrive on the field, and everyone loves Bryce the person, and it's not really saying anything that a coach has real or unrealistic expectations, but everyone also knows that Bryce is going to have to do much more than he has done in 2026. That's the simple crux of the matter.

It's not twisting anything. Bryce needs to take the next step, which I said in so many words, but whether he will or not is anyone's guess right now. If he does, he'll be secure, if he doesn't then he won't be. Moreover, having his seemingly annual slow start is not really indicative of someone taking the next step. This is the season to improve, if he doesn't, then we will be looking to upgrade.

That may be true, but if he is as bad as you say, then they shouldn't have exercised his option. Arguably under those circumstances, we must be chasing a sunk cost.

I could be wrong, but I think he also has the lowest floor and highest bust potential among the guys mentioned in the same conversation.

For all the good feelings about Bryce Young, when you read between the lines, it's what DC says and doesn't say that makes us know that Bryce hasn't necessarily been the supercomputer that they thought he would be. This season, Bryce has to make a tangible progression on the field. "A big part of it is being able to operate at the line of scrimmage — not in the huddle — when we want to, and he’s certainly capable of that," Canales said about Young. "It’s not solely on him. It’s a group that’s pretty young. You have to trust all the guys to go up there, communicate verbally or nonverbally and execute what we’re doing. We’ve made huge strides in that regard. His ability to alter things based on what they’re giving you will give us another edge, which he’s continued to grow and had some great examples down the stretch where he identified things they were doing, got us to the right check and capitalized on some plays. Want to see him do that more when it’s appropriate. We don’t need to be changing things just to change it." The implications, perhaps insinuations, are pretty evident. Bryce is just going to have to do better. "And then for Bryce, it’s the identification of early on the cues that the defense are giving us, to be able to eliminate parts of your progression before the ball’s even snapped. That happens with time. I’ve seen quarterbacks really own and master, which allows them to play lightning fast." Obviously Bryce isn't necessarily picking things up as fast as Canales would like, and I can only assume that Canales is making comparisons to Russell Wilson, Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield. But, of course, not everyone picks things up at the same rate. Bryce's pace has left Canales wanting for more. During the coming season, I don't believe that it will be good enough for Bryce to start putting things together in December, evidence of the light switch being on is going to have to show itself in September. Basically, it's really the moment that we've all been waiting for, the one that we thought should've happened earlier, the one that brings Bryce's accountability in the spotlight. On an off note, perhaps to that end, we should consider the possible implications upon the draft, but that's another story. Basically, it's time for Bryce to sh¡t or get off the pot. https://roundtable.io/sports/nfl/panthers/news/carolina-panthers-dave-canales-holds-nothing-back-on-bryce-young-in-new-interview

His results are too inconsistent to be calling him a rockstar. I'll give him a little grace, as he's not coached under the best of circumstances and has won some games he probably shouldn't have looking at personnel, but the big picture is still nebulous. The coming season should clear things up. But I'm not buying the "rockstar" or "QB guru" labels right now.