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Can We Stop Pretending That Ron Edwards Is Anything Special


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Everyone (on the huddle) keeps shouting about Ron Edwards like he is a stud. Yeah I get that he is a serviceable starter, but lets not act like he is much more than an average starter, at best. The guy is pretty old, just missed a whole year, was already declining before he signed with the panthers and was just ok to begin with. He will help, he is a piece of the puzzle, but he is not going to single handedly change our defense. If he had been a panther his whole career everyone would want to draft a DT to replace him, yet now he is the answer (excuse) to not drafting one. I for one, am ok with not drafting DT, even if I most certainly would have myself. Finding serviceable DTs isnt the hardest thing, the hard part is finding above average youngish DTs who can do more than just run stuff.

The real problem last year was that fua and mcclain were terrible. end of story, no room for argument. Perhaps they improve, in fact its even likely, but they were empirically bad last year. abrayo franklin could be signed for a plate of bacon and would be vastly better than those guys w[i]ere last year.[/i] Ill take kearse and neblett over mcclain and fua any day.

Ron Edwards: pretty ok player, great lock room guy, reasonable contract, not a stud. This is all totally ok, but lets not keep pretending the reality is something else.

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He seems like a HOF compared to our DT corps of last year.
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Agreed. He's old, injury prone, and wasn't much more than serviceable even when healthy. He can be a useful part of the rotation, but Hurney screwed up big by putting us in a position where we had to rely on him to prevent us from starting two rookies at DT.

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Glad someone said it. I've been very confused about so many people talking like Ron Edwards is going to come back and be Ndamukong Suh or something.

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Ron Edwards...pffft....Frank Kearse is the future!

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You're the only person mentioning Ron Edwards.
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The team's locker room and the coaching staff make the man. This team must be Rivera-like or fail. When it was Siefart-like it failed, the team is the coach. That is my take. Ron Edwards will be as good as he thinks he can be, and that is up to Rivera. Just like Cam. Give the man 3 years to see if he is head coach material.

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Omgz why can't we have pro bowlers at every position! Out of 22 starters, every team has a few that are serviceable at best with backups who will end up playing 7 on 7 Eh

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We don't need any of the DTs to do anything special. We just need two big dudes in there eating up blocks. Edwards and Shirley are both 330-340. Kearse is 320. We just need them to hold their ground and not get buried like Fua did all last year. Fua was thrown around like a wet paper towel. We need two big fat strong pigs in there. Hopefully they crush golden corral every night packing on pounds. The bigger the better

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he's barely adequate on his best day

somehow that's good enough for a lot of panther fans lol

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Pffffffffff said that when he signed. Warm body.

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He will be like Damien Lewis was for us. Frank Kearse will be our beast.

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Not to mention Fua jumped offsides more than any player I remember. That dude needs a lot of work.

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I feel really good about this year.

Rivera knows what he is doing when it comes to defense. Let's get out of the John Fox mentality, and get on board. We have a really good LB squad, maybe one of the best in the league. We have a lot of competition at DB. surely Nakamura or Reggie Smith can help at safety, and they both will make an impact on Special Teams along with our new returner Adams.

We got Cam, Smitty, and TRIPLE Trouble! We got Gross, Kalil, Silatolu, and the rest of the boys that kept Cam healthy last year.
We get to see if Gettis can get on board with Cam, and we know that LaFell is improving. Greg Olson says "Hi", and maybe we can get Shock on good contract if he doesnt sign somewhere else.

And for a cherry on top, we get The Saints struggling with their problems. This team is going to the playoffs.




-hehe, I meant to post this in a different thread, but whatever, its cool...

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[b][sub][size=4]2 - 3 years people[/size][/sub][/b]

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[quote name='Keith Moons Liver' timestamp='1335929937' post='1760700']
Agreed. He's old, injury prone, and wasn't much more than serviceable even when healthy. He can be a useful part of the rotation, but Hurney screwed up big by putting us in a position where we had to rely on him to prevent us from starting two rookies at DT.
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Ron is not injury prone, he's played every game in his career until he missed all last season.

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I agree with the OP the guy is OK, but he is not gonna be disruptive or help our pass-rush much. I expect him to help in the run game a bit, but that's it.
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[quote name='Keith Moons Liver' timestamp='1335929937' post='1760700']
Agreed. He's old, injury prone, and wasn't much more than serviceable even when healthy. He can be a useful part of the rotation, but Hurney screwed up big by putting us in a position where we had to rely on him to prevent us from starting two rookies at DT.
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edwards played in 5 straight full season before he was injured with us, I don't think he is injury prone. He is a starter - not a great one, but a starter. His job is to take up blocks, freeing up lanes for linebackers. He does this well enough... it is true he is nothing special, but we do not need 'special' at DT, we need strong and consistent.

I would have loved to have gotten a great DT in this draft but there just wasn't one they wanted enough to draft over Kuechly. Probably true that any DT they drafted wouldn't have been an immediate-impact kinda guy anyway =|

I guess we'll see if the huddle is right or if hurney is right once the season gets going.

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Can you stop pretending that you know better than the coaches and staff?

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I think Rivera and Hurney likes Shirley, Kearse, and Neblet a lot more than Edwards, Fua, and McClain.

We will see those three play more than fua n mcclain

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This forum is for people to express opinions. No one here is acting like they know more than coaching staff. We are all passionate about the team.

So quit being an Internet bad ass. Quit being an asshole when you don't have anything to say about the thread.
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[quote name='Ivan The Awesome' timestamp='1335931679' post='1760740']
Can you stop pretending that you know better than the coaches and staff?
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i was specifically referring to the huddle. the staff hasnt been touting edwards to any extreme.

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The Lions gave up 128 yards per game, we gave up 130, who has the better DT's?

I believe the LBers and the DE were to blame just as much as the DT or even more.

But Edwards will eat up blocks, allowing the LB to get to the RB before they hit the second level, Fua and McClain were dominated last year, and a lot of it was one on one, allowing a Olineman to get downfield and block LBers, if Edwards takes up a double team and holds the Dline at the Point of attack, then he is an upgrade over the rookies, with adding Luke and Beason coming back, we only can get better....

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Plug in Edwards and Shirley. Shirley had 2 sacks and a forced fumble in 4 games. Run D improved with Shirley and Kearse on the field.

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