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I couldn't wait any longer to discuss this game with the resident Hawk fans on the board.

The match up i'm most looking forward to is our WRs vs your secondary. I expect safety help for browner on his side and i expect julio to be on browners side for a lot of the game. I don't expect Seattle's corners to follow unless they have reason too. Seattles LBs can rush upfield in a hurry. The Falcons have a great screen game to counter this. This could play more into the falcons hands with clemons out. It's definitely gonna be a fun chess match to watch for me.

I don't know how well Wilson can do with me screaming how much he likes boys from the stands lol.

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[quote name='Falcons1stPanthers2nd' timestamp='1357781904' post='2087066']
I couldn't wait any longer to discuss this game with the resident Hawk fans on the board.

The match up i'm most looking forward to is our WRs vs your secondary. I expect safety help for browner on his side and i expect julio to be on browners side for a lot of the game. I don't expect Seattle's corners to follow unless they have reason too. Seattles LBs can rush upfield in a hurry. The Falcons have a great screen game to counter this. This could play more into the falcons hands with clemons out. It's definitely gonna be a fun chess match to watch for me.

I don't know how well Wilson can do with me screaming how much he likes boys from the stands lol.
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Im surprised you didn't mention what I truly think will be the deciding factor. Because I think the secondary/receiving core should balance out well.

This game will come down to

Falcons stop Lynch = Falcons Win

Falcons don't stop Lynch = Falcons Loss

The Seahawks defense is good enough to contain anyone, so the game doesn't get out of hand. The most points we allowed in the entire season was 28 points, and that was a horrid game for us. We held Tom Brady in the Patriots to 23 points, and they lead the league in points scored. So it's not going to be a huge high scoring affair. I really think it will come down to how the Falcons can stop Lynch, if they do, I think the Seahawks lose a game in the 17-24 range, if they don't I think the Seahawks take it

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Lynch's success will lie in the trenches. He's never had much success against us. However the scheme OL and QB are much improved this time around. That's what worries me more than Lynch himself. I don't think Lynch will be a deciding factor in the game. Call it a hunch.

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[quote name='Falcons1stPanthers2nd' timestamp='1357783875' post='2087118']
Lynch's success will lie in the trenches. He's never had much success against us. However the scheme OL and QB are much improved this time around. That's what worries me more than Lynch himself. I don't think Lynch will be a deciding factor in the game. Call it a hunch.
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Lynch is one of the best runners in the league, the Falcons do not have a good run defense (21st in the league), how can you say that won't be a deciding factor?? You played us last year when we didn't have a QB at all, so all we did was run, now we developed the zone read (which Atlanta struggles with) and we are much, much better. Say what you will, but I think if Lynch can run effectively, that will decide the game.

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I am starting to get worried. I have literally never felt so passionate about another team besides the Panthers as I do about the Hawks right now. First off, I'm literally obsessed with their secondary. Browner is the Steve Smith of corners and Sherman is the most underrated corner in the league, with a bit of Steve in him as well. Their safeties make ours look like pee-wee players.

Second, and this defies logic as I am a Tarheel, I love Russel Wilson. How can you not like this guy? Wasn't highly regarded (people thought we were going to draft him in the fifth or so), came in and flat out beat highly touted Flynn, has played a major role in Seahawk victories, and is as humble as they come. Don't care if he went to State, I'm a fan.

Third, they are playing the god damn falcons. Please god keep Matty Shyte in the 0 playoff wins column

fug am I excited to see the hawks whoops some ass, I'm a honorary 12 from here till the end of this season.

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God, someone please push the spread to +3. PLEASE

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[quote name='Hawkfanadam' timestamp='1357784770' post='2087150']
Lynch is one of the best runners in the league, the Falcons do not have a good run defense (21st in the league), how can you say that won't be a deciding factor?? You played us last year when we didn't have a QB at all, so all we did was run, now we developed the zone read (which Atlanta struggles with) and we are much, much better. Say what you will, but I think if Lynch can run effectively, that will decide the game.
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Where is this BS about we struggle with the zone read coming from? Only Carolina ran it successfully enough for it to matter. We struggled vs Carolina cause Cam is a athletic monster.

I know he is. I'm saying i think it will be more on the line play and execution. Not him going Beast mode. I think he'll get his yards but not be a deciding factor. I did say to call it a hunch.

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I haven't seen the falcons play this year because I'm watching the Hawks instead! Who else do you have as receivers? I'm of the thought that Julio is your main man?

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I haven't seen the falcons play this year because I'm watching the Hawks instead! Who else do you have as receivers? I'm of the thought that Julio is your main man?
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Most Falcons fans feel White should have been in the pro bowl over Julio. Roddy is incredibly clutch and has the 2nd highest rated hands this year and had the most catches/targets for his career i believe. 92 for 1300 Roddy is still a force to be reckoned with. It's 1a 1b

Tony Gonzalez. This poses the biggest mismatch for the Hawks IMO. If they have one weakness in pass defense it's defending the TE and we've got a great one who almost had 1000 yards this year.

Jacquizz Rodgers (RB) they like to check down to. Really shifty. Doesn't have breakaway speed but he will make people miss in open space and break off a lot of 10-15 yarders on screens and dumpoffs that can drive defenses crazy.

Harry Douglas. He might be a punt returner as well this game which he has not been this season but most fans want him back there lol. They experimented a bit with it in week 17 and he's been back there when we really needed a return. very average route runner. Can do some stuff in space when he gets open and can burn you deep but is the 5th option behind RW, JJ, TG, and Jacquizz.

Jason Snelling. (RB) Just a versatile okay player to check down too.

While the Falcons run game has not been impressive it's been enough to get teams to bite on play action. We never abandon it. We are very successful running play action.

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[sup]I forgot about Roddy...I see the Hawks switching up between Sherman and Browner on those two...and don't underestimate Earl Thomas either. Losing Clemons sucks, but Irvin has proved he can pick up the slack. After preparing for RG3 and the Washington running game and them running the play action...even though it didn't really last due to RG3 getting worse as the game went on, I think Seattle will be ready for your play action. I see the defense being the big difference here. Seattle D will probably score a touchdown on a pick 6. The difference maker in the game will be how well the falcon offence takes advantage of what I think is Seattle's biggest weakness...and you already touched on...the short dump off passes. The D is very aggressive and we are going to come after Ryan...if he can get enough time to dump it off, Atlanta will have some success there. If not...NO. I fully expect Lynch to have a huge game.[/sup]

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[i]what the hell is going on with my posts!!! I can't use my enter button and the font changes every damn time[/i]

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[quote name='Hawk' timestamp='1357792210' post='2087412']
[sup]I forgot about Roddy...I see the Hawks switching up between Sherman and Browner on those two...and don't underestimate Earl Thomas either. Losing Clemons sucks, but Irvin has proved he can pick up the slack. After preparing for RG3 and the Washington running game and them running the play action...even though it didn't really last due to RG3 getting worse as the game went on, I think Seattle will be ready for your play action. I see the defense being the big difference here. Seattle D will probably score a touchdown on a pick 6. The difference maker in the game will be how well the falcon offence takes advantage of what I think is Seattle's biggest weakness...and you already touched on...the short dump off passes. The D is very aggressive and we are going to come after Ryan...if he can get enough time to dump it off, Atlanta will have some success there. If not...NO. I fully expect Lynch to have a huge game.[/sup]
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I'm honestly more concerned about your safeties. I think Browner can be had. Sherman will only be tried if he's beat. Don't think they'll try to test him too much. Which don't underestimate Roddy. He can run any route. Short intermediate deep. and run it well. The Falcons offense has sputtered more at home than on the road. Our defense is the one that plays stingy at home. 16 ppg but shut out the giants and made the Manning Bros and Brees look like scrubs. Maybe a pick. A pick 6 i don't think will happen. Falcons catch Julio on a screen while your LBs have their ears pinned back it could be bad news bears. Seattle hasn't faced a receiving corps like ours. We haven't faced a secondary like theirs. That's what's got me so hyped for the matchups. The individual matchups. Roddy White and Julio both excel against press and are physical tough WRs.

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going to be fun...that's pretty much a guarantee. We have a little play action of our own....and a QB that can run pretty effectively! It won't be 10-7!!!!!

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[i]what the hell is going on with my posts!!! I can't use my enter button and the font changes every damn time[/i]
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lol. I noticed that too. Clay Bennett probably got ahold of your computer.... bastard


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I am starting to get worried. I have literally never felt so passionate about another team besides the Panthers as I do about the Hawks right now. First off, I'm literally obsessed with their secondary. Browner is the Steve Smith of corners and Sherman is the most underrated corner in the league, with a bit of Steve in him as well. Their safeties make ours look like pee-wee players.

Second, and this defies logic as I am a Tarheel, I love Russel Wilson. How can you not like this guy? Wasn't highly regarded (people thought we were going to draft him in the fifth or so), came in and flat out beat highly touted Flynn, has played a major role in Seahawk victories, and is as humble as they come. Don't care if he went to State, I'm a fan.

Third, they are playing the god damn falcons. Please god keep Matty Shyte in the 0 playoff wins column

fug am I excited to see the hawks whoops some ass, I'm a honorary 12 from here till the end of this season.
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Welcome to the 12s! Hopefully its a long ride till it's over for you! ;)

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going to be fun...that's pretty much a guarantee. We have a little play action of our own....and a QB that [b]can[/b] run pretty effectively! It won't be 10-7!!!!!
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You fixed your can't before i corrected it. ;)

I think Spoon spies Wilson with man coverage outside. You won't want him taking off running too much if that's the case. Spoon spied RG3 as well. Our defense hits hard. Dunta/Moore/Decoud/Spoon will not hesitate to take a shot on RW if it's there. Blocking might not be in his best interest. lol.

Oh and i'll be at the game by the way. With a sign that says

"And God said unto Abraham, Sack Russell Wilson"

Kind of a play on Wilson's beliefs ;)

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[b]Seattle hasn't faced a receiving corps like ours. [/b]
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We faced Green Bay and New England???? You can't honestly tell me Atlantas receiving unit is worlds better than those two? ESPECIALLY Green Bay.

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you spelt beat wrong!!!!!
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Should go without saying ;)
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[quote name='Hawkfanadam' timestamp='1357793208' post='2087450']
We faced Green Bay and New England???? You can't honestly tell me Atlantas receiving unit is worlds better than those two? ESPECIALLY Green Bay.
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The Pack don't have a single receiver over 1000. We have 2. Almost 3. They have 5 receivers with more than 30 catches. Atlanta has 6. Atlanta's receiving unit this year has been the best in the NFL. GB also has a better quarterback and OL.

Also different types of receivers. Ours are big physical and fast. our top 2 WRs are the most talented on any team.

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The Pack don't have a single receiver over 1000. We have 2. Almost 3. They have 5 receivers with more than 30 catches. Atlanta has 6. Atlanta's receiving unit this year has been the best in the NFL. GB also has a better quarterback and OL.
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Because they have a much deeper receiving unit.... that being said. My point was that Atlanta is not worlds better than GB... if we were able to contain them.. we should be fine with Atlanta, not saying they will be easy, but it's not like we will be shocked by what they can bring. We faced a much tougher schedule than Atlanta this year so we will be ready. Thats my reasoning of why it will come down to Lynch. Ryan and his receivers will get theirs. But if you can't stop Lynch, thats the way we can outscore the Falcons in the dome

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[quote name='Hawkfanadam' timestamp='1357793716' post='2087475']
Because they have a much deeper receiving unit.... that being said. My point was that Atlanta is not worlds better than GB... if we were able to contain them.. we should be fine with Atlanta, not saying they will be easy, but it's not like we will be shocked by what they can bring. We faced a much tougher schedule than Atlanta this year so we will be ready. Thats my reasoning of why it will come down to Lynch. Ryan and his receivers will get theirs. But if you can't stop Lynch, thats the way we can outscore the Falcons in the dome
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Packers receivers are not nearrrrrrrrly as physical as roddy and Julio. different skillsets. and it's clearly not as deep if we have more receivers with 30 catches. And as i said. Better qb and OL. The SOS argument is tired. We beat every team we played.

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biggest secondary in the league...no question. Falcons won't be the first team to accuse them of playing dirty/too rough/etc etc etc....beat us with the short game...that's your chance. Unless the something very odd happens, I can't see you winning this game by beating us deep repeatedly.

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biggest secondary in the league...no question. Falcons won't be the first team to accuse them of playing dirty/too rough/etc etc etc....beat us with the short game...that's your chance. Unless the something very odd happens, I can't see you winning this game by beating us deep repeatedly.
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They do play dirty. Sherman went to Stanford. He's not stupid. He learned how to get away with it. Browner should take a few more lessons. He gets flagged a lot more. and nor do i. But i think a good deep connection or two will be important.

Don't get me wrong. They are using the rules best to their advantage. I take no issue with it.

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January 10, 2013, 2:06 AM EST
Richard Sherman thinks Atlanta receivers are best tandem in league
Seattle Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman thinks the Atlanta Falcons receiving corps provides the biggest challenge his team has faced all season.

The Falcons’ duo of Julio Jones and Roddy White, along with tight end Tony Gonzalez, are among the most dynamic group of pass catchers the Seahawks have had to face this season.

“I would think so,” Sherman said Wednesday. “They’re two of the best in the league. They’re two of the best out there right [url="http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/3967675-sherman-showing-respect/#"]now[/url] as individuals. For a tandem they’re probably the top tandem out there.”

Seattle has faced some of the best receivers in the game this season in Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall, but they haven’t seen a group that poses as big a threat as Atlanta will this week.

“I think it is really going to be an exciting match-up to watch. Their receivers are so good, and they target the heck out of those guys, them and Tony Gonzalez, so there is going to be a lot of chances in this game,” head coach Pete Carroll said.

Sherman praised the ability of Jones and White in their route-running and their ability to make an impact downfield. He said while both are dynamic players, they are effective in different ways.

“I think Roddy is more crafty of a route-runner,” Sherman said. “He uses different tricks and things. You can see that he’s a veteran when he’s route-running. Julio runs hard routes and plays the game more physical. I think he’s stronger in his routes and uses his body more.”

[b]“This is probably the best pair [of receivers] and pair [of cornerbacks] that you could match-up, and because of the size, and because of their physical nature in the way that they play, it’s going to be really exciting to see, ” Carroll said.[/b]

The match-up of White and Jones against Sherman and Brandon Browner will be one of the most intriguing positional battles of the weekend. Which tandem is more effective on Sunday could go a long way in determining who earns the spot in the NFC Championship game. As always, Sherman is eager for the challenge.

“It’s going to be a fun match-up for us. It’s fun to play against good players. Good against good is always the best kind of game,” Sherman said.

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