It's starting to make sense. Not with most Hornet fans but I can see the direction MJ and Cho want to go in. Everything rides on Frank developing into that guy. To me, it's a very solid line up. Kemba (ball movement), MKG (defense, rebounding) and Kaminsky (scoring, distribution). If it all goes according to plan, that's a nice trio for the future. It's not sexy or flashy but it's good enough to win games. Of course, if you guys do manage to land Curry, perceptions will change.
It's rather interesting. I can see why MJ preferred Kaminsky over Winslow. The Hornets desperately needed a scorer and Justise isn't that. However, it's a very risky move because Winslow's shot is already there. As the article alluded, at age 19 Winslow is further along than Kidd-Gilchrist when it comes down to his mechanics and form. He doesn't need an overhaul like MKG did. So the potential is there for Winslow to be a 20/10 guy but he's got work to do. In Miami, he'll be surrounded by experienced and top level coaches. It'll all be up to him. Everything hinges on Kaminsky adapting to the NBA. If he can cope with the speed and physicality from defenders, then he should be fine but I sense he'll struggle mightily, especially his first two seasons.
I still think had you guys drafted Winslow, MJ wouldn't have traded Kidd-Gilchrist away. Justise is a hybrid player, so he could play the SG and SF roles. Three years of investment, MKG has repaid The Hornets with being a Top 10 defender. You don't trade someone like that unless you change your identity and scheme. Cho and MJ just have to hope Frank develops into Dirk-lite because he will be replacing Big Al. Adding Monroe would help tremendously though. That said, I'd save every penny for Curry (similar to what The Heat are currently doing for Durant). Golden State isn't gonna let him go without a fight.
I must have been looking at his 2014 stats. I'm only echoing what you guys say on here. The status quo apparently is MKG is what you guys had hoped for on the defensive side but not offensively. As the second overall pick, he's everything you need as a squad that values defense (similar to Indiana) over offense. He's a fine fourth or fifth option in my opinion. However, the odds of him being as effective and impactful as Butler or Green or Leonard on the other side are slim. So long as Charlotte values defense, MKG will be a staple and a valuable piece. To be honest, I don't know what to make out of the Hornet fanbase. You guys seem to be happy with his defensive contributions but the moment he has a poor showing on offense (which is gonna happen a lot), you guys want him traded. Yet, these fans are aware that MKG is not a good second or third option.
Scouts have highlighted that as a negative. Professional ball isn't the same. The athleticism he'll be facing is much different. Wisconsin fans agree with the nickname for two reasons: - Because of his shooting prowess - Because he's stiff and slow. And yet he's shown regression. Didn't his stats take a significant dip last season? I mean, if he's improved on his shooting that much then why isn't he involved on the offensive side more? Judging by the MKG criticism on this site, well over half the The Huddle shouldn't be talking about Basketball then. I don't remember who exactly made this quote on here (paraphrased) but it sums up MKG: "The only impact MKG will ever have on our offense if we're lucky is two jumpers, and a couple tip-ins, dunks and free throws a game." MKG is a premier defender but his offense will always be limited. I mean, this is coming from a fanbase that labeled him a massive disappointment and is ready to say goodbye to him in an instant (just as recent as draft night).
MKG is a beast defensively BUT he'll never be a factor on offense. Most Hornet fans have seemed to accept this as I've read on here in the past two years. And that's fine. Charlotte's bread and butter is defense after all. When looking at Winslow, however, if he's developed properly and if he puts the work in, he'll be a two-way player. An absolute stud. Winslow's jumper, form and mechanics are much more fluid than MKG's. Then there's his top tier athleticism. My point in this conversation though is that Justise is NOT Lance (they're not the same type of player) and that his ceiling is much higher. Frank The Tank is the right pick IF he pans out. We'll see but MJ has yet to make the right move... ever. When looking at Frank, I just don't see a guy who can replace Al's production. He doesn't have the physicality and he possesses little to no mobility. So I don't see how he'll be able to create his own shot in the NBA.
Man, a couple of you in here are truly trying to make yourselves feel better. While Winslow needs to develop on his perimeter shooting and free throws, his ceiling is nowhere near Lance Stevenson. Justise is not even the same type of player. His game is similar to the Greens, Leonards, Iguodalas, and Butlers of the NBA.
Miami was on fire when Spoelstra started playing the D-League gems. We only missed out on the playoffs because of injuries to Bosh, Dragic and McRoberts. It was bad luck but I can't complain. Poo happens. However, now that Bosh and McRoberts have fully recovered and Dragic got over his back spasms, that line up is better than Atlanta's, Chicago's, Indiana's and Washington's for various reasons. At full strength, Cleveland and Atlanta had issues against us. That'll only continue.
Eh, LBJ was a massive loss but our depth is far superior than Cleveland's, and that's what James missed when he was in the Finals. Again: Wade, Bosh, Dragic, Whiteside, Deng, T.Johnson, Napier, Chalmers, Andersen, Haslem, Ennis, McRoberts, and now Winslow. That's roster alone makes The Heat the second best team in the East. Will we win another ring right now? No. The West is stacked with great teams BUT it does give Miami more flash for free agents. Riley will go hard after Durant or Westbrook or Conley within the next two years.
It's kinda wayyyy too early to say that. After all, Winslow was the guy for Duke during tournament run. Once more, Winslow measures higher than 6'4". The easiest way to confirm that is to check out Dwyane Wade's twitter feed. He met Winslow two months ago and took a pic together. Justise not only appeared taller (an inch minimum) but possessed a thicker frame than Wade too. Males don't stop growing until age 23. That means Winslow might end up at 6'7" -- big enough to handle PFs at that size. Not many share that opinion. Yes, Frank is a better shooter and scorer but rebounder? Nope. Defensively? Not even close. Athletically? Hell no. One of strongest knocks against The Tank is indeed his ability to create his own shot at the next level and handle any type of physicality. Not one scout believes that Frank will be able to do what he did at Wisconsin.
Man, you must either be a hardcore UNC fan or you're trying to convince yourself that Winslow sucks and that's the reason why MJ didn't draft him with outrageous claims like that. Winslow is a great defender. He can guard up to three positions (Power Forward, Center and Shooting Guard) and he possesses top notch athleticism and decent size/reach to accompany his defensive tenacity. While his outside shooting and free throws do need improvement, he has a smoother and more fluid shot than MKG will ever have. Justise will be more than just a role player.