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  1. Time to panic

    The main culprit (Gettleman)responsible for this poo show was already fired
  2. Such a small sample size right now. Considering we were intentionally burning up clock in both games to secure the win. Let's see how things shake out against N.O this week.
  3. Play is either in with at least 15 seconds left on the play clock or not in at all. NFL cuts the communication off at the 15 second mark.
  4. Well my original argument was that he does get the most out of individual players , as evidenced by every player that has played under him and other coordinators do better under his command.
  5. Not necessarily true. It's the job of the coordinator to put every player in the best position to succeed as individuals and more importantly as a unit. Everyone argues he does not make proper adjustments to compensate for player weaknesses. If, using your logic when need to start blaming position coaches more than we are Shula
  6. Clearly (apparently not) I was referring to their individual success/contributions to other teams success.
  7. Plenty of great coordinators took a long time to get offered a head coaching job. Rivera and McDermott are prime examples of it. It's not a strong argument for those who says he's a bottom tier offensive coordiantor. That argument works if you want to says he's not elite, which I wouldn't. disagree with. Im just tired of seeing the collective huddle brainwash itself into believing he's the main downfall of our team right now, when there's no solid evidence to back that up. That and the tired argument of saying he takes to long to get plays in is a bad argument as well. The plays are in with at least 15 seconds left on the clock ( the NFL cuts off the helmet communication at this point). That allows 25 seconds from the time the previous play ends until the play has to be in. Sometimes cam waste some of those seconds celebrating, hyping the crowd up vs listening to the call coming in.
  8. There is only so much you can do to compensate for the likes of Byron Bell, Mike Remmers, Michael Oher, Matt Kalil, getting worked over, or cam being rusty or having an off day,Or receivers dropping passes or running poor routes and not creating seperation.
  9. For those of you who think he sucks so much, what players have had better success under a different regime prior to joining the panthers or after leaving the panthers? To me it seems like he's gotten the most out of anyone. Off the top of my head here are players who have played under other coordinators Tedd Ginn, Deangelo Williams, Brandon Lafell,Byron Bell, Mike Remmers, Greg Olsen, Ed Dickson, Steve Smith, Jericho Cotchery.,Michael Oher. Mike Tolbert, Philly Brown. will edit as I think of more
  10. The offensive coordinator will always be the fall guy for poor execution but never given credit when things go right. It really is a team effort. He's not perfect but I think it would be fair to say lack of talent at the tackle positions and poor execution of plays have hurt us more than simply blaming Shula for everything. The huddle has collectively brainwashed itself into believing this nonsense that he is a bottom tier coordinator. He's not, it's an insult to Rivera's football intelligence for holding onto him if this was the case.
  11. I was coming to post the same thing lol. Mines a lil different. Will post when I get home
  12. I am not calling you a liar. Hell, Norman and Cam wrestled for the whole world to see and nobody batted an eye over that. I just stating my opinion that I don't believe it to have been a serious enough of a punch, if it happened at all for that to be why he was cut. I believe it was more for the reasons that Voth stated.
  13. Well I could pretend to have source's too! So maybe some minor altercation happened but again it's unlikely he just sucker punched him. Voth is a plugged as it get's, so we know his info is good. He never said anything about Steve Smith coming out and cold clocking him or sucker punching him.
  14. I don't think Philly is spouting random crap. I think he was told that. I also think that it didn't happen. If so it was likely a scuffle, that was less serious than what happened with Cam and Josh Norman in camp.
  15. http://blackandbluereview.com/steve-smith-admits-he-bumped-heads-with-cam-newton/ http://www.charlottemagazine.com/Blogs/Black-and-Blue-Review-2/September-2014/Looking-Back-at-the-Panthers-Steve-Smith-Decision/ The punching him in the face thing is exaggerated. The 2 above articles reference the rift's and why Smith was let go. He did not punch Cam. Plus there is this. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/28/ron-rivera-thinks-steve-smith-should-retire-a-panther/ Rivera wasn’t alone hailing Smith Wednesday, either. “A fierce competitor,” Panthers quarterback Cam Newton said. “There’s not a lot of guys that you look down a dark alley and you say, ‘I want to bring this person, I want to bring that person.’ Steve Smith is one of those guys that you better make sure that he’s on your team and not against the team because I’ve seen both of them. I would prefer him being on my team.”
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