I feel like Wake and Giles is like NC State and Ingram, there was no way Ingram was picking State and I don't think there is any way Giles is picking Wake. Last year this time Giles was a lock for unc, his friend and former Wesleyan teammate was getting ready to play for chapel hill and he was spending a lot of time up there. That's all changed with unc since there are going to be sanctions and recruits like Harry don't know what they will be. Duke is clearly the front runner especially with his best friend just committing there last weekend, plus Duke is recruiting him the hardest.
That would be a huge get for WF but I think it's a long shot. I just think Duke has way too much momentum right now. The huge haul for Duke could actually be in 2017 though. There are talks of a package deal with Wendell Carter, Gary Trent, Michael Porter, and Trae Young all coming to Duke. Jeff Capel and Jon Scheyer have been killing it on the recruiting trail.
A year ago I would have said there is no way he doesn't go to unc because his old teammate, Pinson, plays there. He also goes up to chapel hill and plays pickup games quite a bit. I look at him a lot like I look at Brandon Ingram, these guys were unc locks IMO but this academic scandal has scared them off. I now see Giles as Duke's to lose, he is best friends with Tatum and they have talked about a "package deal" just like Okafor and Jones. Plus Duke can walk into a visit holding the championship trophy which is a huge advantage. Like you said they will either get Smith or Jackson to run the point and another stellar recruiting class.
Nope. That's why there are different levels and why they investigate. 1600 athletes is > 1 athlete right? If you want to show me emails or other items that show a violation occurred with Thomas then we can continue this conversation otherwise you are deflecting.
So a kid getting a loan is the same as 18 years of fake classes? Sorry but that is not even close. Plus we have no idea why Thomas was given the loan, his mom is pretty well off so that could be the reason.
Man we have already covered this in the Lance Thomas thread. I got a loan for my $125,000 condo when I was in college so I would assume he got his loan the same way. Are we really going to act like it was a done deal that Thomas was going to play pro ball? I mean if he really talked the jeweler into this deal on future NBA earnings then he got hustled. Like I said I don't know their exact arrangement but it's not that had to get a loan especially if you have good credit. Maggette did break NCAA rules and that's why they investigated but they found Duke wasn't involved and had no way of knowing CM took some cash from his coach back in high school.
Well I don't see how Maggette accepting $2,000 from his AAU coach has anything to do with Duke, which is why when the NCAA investigated it cleared Duke. Thomas got a loan from a store, I don't think that breaks NCAA rules does it?
No doubt but that is one of the things unc redacted.
I disagree, someone asked her to do all these things she didn't just research all these athletes grades and help them cheat on her own. This is what unc has done the whole time is try and use people as scapegoats to try and protect AD's, coaches, anyone else higher up that was involved or knew this was going on. I mean unc wants us to believe that this was a scheme setup by Crowder and Nyang'oro and had nothing to do with the athletic department, nobody buys that except heels fans.
What do you mean? You asked for the emails and he highlighted them for you. It's not hard to tell if you take off those baby blue glasses. Everyone that doesn't wear baby blue can see this was a scam to keep athletes eligible that was constructed by Dean back in the day and was carried on for 18 years. The crazy thing is the fake classes were not enough sometimes and that's when Crowder would step in and "help out" with grading. Look, McCants failed his classes the semester before and was on the verge of being ineligible and miraculously the next semester he's in AFAM classes and makes the Dean's list? You can honestly tell me Wayne Walden didn't see his grades and know he was on the verge of ineligibility and had to find a way to get those grades up? That was Walden's job and we can argue whether or not roy "knew" the details about AFAM scam but turning a blind eye to it is not an acceptable defense in my book.
Is that the LOIC? That's the biggest one and the MBB is in the mix for that one.
From the NOA, pages 48-49:
"The AFRI/AFAM department created anomalous courses that went unchecked for 18 years. This allowed individuals within ASPSA to use these courses through special arrangements to maintain the eligibility of academically at-risk student-athletes, particularly in the sports of football, men's basketball and women's basketball. Although the general student body also had access to the anomalous AFRI/AFAM courses, student-athletes received preferential access to these anomalous courses, enrolled in these anomalous courses at a disproportionate rate to that of the general student body and received other impermissible benefits not available to the general student body in connection with these courses. It's an academic scandal that the sports teams used to keep players eligible, so how is that not an athletic issue?
Hey Roy's the one that said "we know what our kids are doing. We are in touch with them every day." Once again if he didn't know he isn't doing his job or living up to what he told these kids parents when he sat down with them while recruiting them. Take off your baby blue glasses and think about this. The starting 5 on the 2005 team were all AFAM majors and McCants is on the verge of flunking out and miraculously the next semester is on the Dean's list. Hello those are major red flags and if Roy did have suspicion he was supposed to self report that to the NCAA. It's been coverup after coverup and everyone sees it but heels fans.