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top dawg posted a topic in Carolina Panthers News and TalkI never heard this story about the hazing (via USA Today via Charlotte Observer's Tom Sorensen) : "During his first season as head coach of the Carolina Panthers, he saw a rookie tied up and repeatedly dipped into cold water. What would happen, Rivera wondered, if the ropes didn’t hold? Rivera ordered the rookie freed." http://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/26/ron-rivera-shut-down-hazing-incident-as-first-year-panthers-coach/ I always thought that I had a good feel for the type of person and coach that Rivera is, and this reaffirms my opinion. But, on the flip side, what in the hell was John Fox doing? Hazing: It is what it is, and it sucks. I would have never thought that hazing to that degree would go on in this organization. But, then again, the boys-will-be-boys philosophy extended it's tentacles in uglier ways here, so...