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Putin wins

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Ukraine is splitting up to East and West.  Putin got East Ukraine and all coal, gas fields and best soil in Europe.  US just gave Ukraine something like $60 million in tax payers money...  Western Ukraine has nothing besides cities.  US/NATO = Fail...

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How would we have "won" do you think?

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Where is this being reported?

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Where is this being reported?

Everywhere. Ukrainian president declaired that they lost East Ukraine to Pro-Russian forces.

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Thanks, Obama

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How would we have "won" do you think?

United State is extremely involved in making Eastern and Western Ukraine part of EU. US gave Ukraine millions in aide. Kerry and Bidden both traveled to Ukraine to encourage West to fight. They sanction Russia and Putin to back off. Putin pretty much told US and Obama to fug off, then he turned around and took Eastern Ukraine without an invasion.

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Pussy in the white house.

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Pussy in the white house.

 

You don't actually believe that, do you? This is a no-win situation for any American president, regardless of the party. McCain slamming Obama is just partisan politics. If he was actually in the white house, this would have played out exactly the same. There is nothing more the US could be doing that wouldn't escalate this regional conflict into a full-scale international war.

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You don't actually believe that, do you? This is a no-win situation for any American president, regardless of the party. McCain slamming Obama is just partisan politics. If he was actually in the white house, this would have played out exactly the same. There is nothing more the US could be doing that wouldn't escalate this regional conflict into a full-scale international war.

I agreed but why the fug poke around in the first place, investing millions of taxpayer money, starting a conflict and then look like fools?

But to Obama defense he did score western Ukraine that will likely be part of EU within 5 years.

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Just a question. Would Putin have this sort of leverage in the region had we went forward with the European missle defense program?

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