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Lions wary of Cam Newton's running: 'I don’t think he can beat us throwing the ball'

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23 minutes ago, Vampire the buffet slayer said:

Yeah,  well,  Stafford isn't exactly Tom Brady either so expect a defense you haven't seen this season.  A real one. 

Agreed on the first part. As far as the second part, statistically speaking Carolina is the 4th best passing defense the Lions will have faced, and the 2nd best rushing defense. They don't allow many points on average, but they are allowing a completion percentage of 70.9%. I do worry about Detroit's O-Line though. I don't think Stafford will have time to get comfortable in the pocket, and will have to make things happen with his feet. Between optimistic and nervous, I am certainly leaning toward the latter. But that might just be the default setting for any Lions fan  :)

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6 minutes ago, Vampire the buffet slayer said:

Very true.  Plus it's at *yalls house.  Should be a good game either way. 

*yalls  is how we say you all's or yous giuz. 

Check. I was introduced to that term during BCT at Ft Benning back in 2003. Also introduced to "real" grits and waffle house while I was down there. Can't get either up here in Michigan.

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Just now, melvin2345 said:

Check. I was introduced to that term during BCT at Ft Benning back in 2003. Also introduced to "real" grits and waffle house while I was down there. Can't get either up here in Michigan.

Not familiar with Michigan spent time in Wisconsin and Minnesota and if Michigan is anything like the people from those states then I'm sure your good people, just need grits Waffle House and Bojangles. 

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2 hours ago, pantherj said:

Hot Cam would destroy Detroit. Cold Cam is bad against any team. We have no idea what we're going to get from week to week. That's part of the fun.

What's good for us is that good Cam usually comes in streaks, and we go on very long winning streaks. If we win on Sunday and Cam shows out I think we could go on another long run.

 

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Not as big of a diss IMO as the headline suggests.

they clearly recognize what a beast he is.  

The last comment where all the emphasis is is really simple.  Can they stop the run and make us beat them with the pass? Carolina hasn’t shown this year they can beat teams when one dimensional.....and despite the NE game, don’t have that diverse of a passing attack.  That isn’t just a Newton comment. Olsen is out. We have a vertical pass attack with no vertical WR. So have we proven we can beat people just throwing to our TE-esque WRs and CMC? I don’t think good teams should think we can beat them if we get put in that box.  More than a Cam comment 

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31 minutes ago, CRA said:

Not as big of a diss IMO as the headline suggests.

they clearly recognize what a beast he is.  

The last comment where all the emphasis is is really simple.  Can they stop he run and make us beat them with the pass? Carolina hasn’t shown this year they can beat team when one dimensional.....and despite the NE game and don’t have that diverse of a passing attack.  That isn’t just a Newton comment. Olsen is out. We have a vertical pass attack with no vertical WR. So have we proven we can beat people jus throwing to our TE-esque WRs and CMC? I don’t think good teams should think we can beat them if put in that box.  More than a Cam comment 

Yeah, just like anywhere else the title of the article was clickbait, but not really the tenor of the article itself.

I think you nailed it. These guys know Cam is a dual threat beast and he's at his best when he's firing on all cylinders, run game helps passing game and vice versa. You take the run game away and it makes him less of a challenge. Cam and this offense needs to run to be successful. Can they win with the run game shut down? Maybe, but the best chance the Lions have at beating us is if they can shut the run game down.

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Many teams have proven this thought process correct. If they can get ample pressure on Cam this will be a Panther L 

 

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47 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Yeah, just like anywhere else the title of the article was clickbait, but not really the tenor of the article itself.

 

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33 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Many teams have proven this thought process correct. If they can get ample pressure on Cam this will be a Panther L 

 

Same goes for every QB in the league. How do you beat Aaron Rodgers. Get pressure and don't let him escape. 

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1 hour ago, rayzor said:

Yeah, just like anywhere else the title of the article was clickbait, but not really the tenor of the article itself.

I think you nailed it. These guys know Cam is a dual threat beast and he's at his best when he's firing on all cylinders, run game helps passing game and vice versa. You take the run game away and it makes him less of a challenge. Cam and this offense needs to run to be successful. Can they win with the run game shut down? Maybe, but the best chance the Lions have at beating us is if they can shut the run game down.

The difference last week was you have to throw to set up the run and we did. 

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20 hours ago, Daeavorn said:

They are kind of right though. This week Cam had a good game and he rushed more times than weeks 1-3 combined. If they shut down his running he may have a bad day passing.

So...if they are accounting for Cam running...that open up something else...right?  Go ahead Lions....risky for ya either way.

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Cam Newton 2016 stats

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13994/cam-newton

 

Matt Stafford 2016 Stats

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/12483/matthew-stafford

 

Not sure why Panthers fans thinks Newton is a huge advantage, I would take Stafford if given the choice. 

Should be a close game, with the deciding factor going to the Lions because of a better special teams unit (aka Prater). 

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